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Another Plane Crash In The US
243 sats \ 15 comments \ @Cje95 12 Feb news
Earlier today there was another plane crash. This time a Navy EA-18G Growler crashed off the coast of San Diego. Thankfully the crew was able to safely eject and are alive and being treated for minor injuries at a local hospital. While the cause is still unclear this is the latest in a string of tragic accidents.
Just yesterday Vince Neil’s private plane collided with another jet on the runway in Arizona killing the pilot. We have also seen a military aircraft crash off the coast of the Philippines that killed one active duty US soldier and a couple defense contractors. Then we have the Air Ambulance crash in Philly, the Alaska aircraft crash in the Bering Sea, and finally the tragic Washington, DC crash.
A lot of people will freak out about this and run to controversy but the fact of the matter is there is a ton of air traffic and the crash rate is incredibly low. It’s not unheard of for planes to hit on the tarmac like what happened in Arizona but people early die. The Alaska flight was a flight over the notoriously dangerous Bering Sea and military aircraft are heavily used and are lost at a higher rate than people would think. Crews though are rarely lost during this incidents though.
It’s a tough time to be in the aviation space but we will get answers and safety will further be enhanced in the goal of preventing any wreck.
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Feb
A friend told me about another crash in Alaska. It was a small passenger plane landing in Nome. The cause in that case was air traffic control giving disastrously poor advice to an inexperienced pilot that resulted in the plane stalling.
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34 sats \ 2 replies \ @Cje95 OP 12 Feb
That was the one I was mentioned about the Bering Sea. Nome is one of our northern most cities (we have others and I forgot what makes Nome so unique but there is something) and Alaskan weather according to my college friend who became a commercial pilot is just another animal. The Bearing Sea is know to rapidly change and cause tons of ship wrecks and from what I understand the air isn’t much better.
It tracks that the two would go hand in hand to doom the flight… there is an enormous crisis facing the US with air traffic control people. Currently we are relying on recent military vets to try and flight a gapping hole and it’s just getting worse and worse.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 13 Feb
Oh, ok. I didn't realize that plane had crashed into the Bering Sea.
Yeah, the wings iced over and air traffic control ordered the pilot to do something that experienced pilots would never do in that scenario.
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37 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 OP 13 Feb
Yeah at least that was my understanding that it crashed at sea… horrific still but the Bering Sea is a monster in its own right
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 12 Feb
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38 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 OP 12 Feb
I’m not a pilot but if anyone is feel free to comment! Could that be cause by a stall? The pilots to recover I know will enter a dive for the engines to restart but I wonder if it was to low?
The F35 crash in Alaska I believe had mechanically stalled which meant the pilot was unable to save it I believe
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10 sats \ 7 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Feb
For all the reassurances about this just being increased awareness of existing problems, I'm increasingly uninterested in travelling by air.
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42 sats \ 6 replies \ @Cje95 OP 12 Feb
I mean honestly that’s a fair enough comment. Aviation and the government have some reassuring to do and hopefully it comes by the way or the accident reports
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10 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Feb
Combine a bunch of disasters that I don't recall hearing about before with substantial comfort decreases and price increases, as well as my added hassle of traveling with a kid, and the result is just not flying anymore, unless I have to.
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32 sats \ 4 replies \ @Cje95 OP 12 Feb
I don’t blame you in the slightest! Especially adding a kid into the picture that is a huge effort.
Out of the numerous crashes only two are huge mysteries and those are the Philly one and the Alaska one. From what I recall they have found the black boxes which will hopefully clear the air
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Feb
Wasn't there something odd in the Philly crash with deleted flight information? I wasn't paying close attention, but I recall seeing something like that.
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29 sats \ 2 replies \ @Cje95 OP 12 Feb
In all honesty I’m not sure what data they could have deleted except for maybe some tower stuff… the black boxes are built and designed to prevent accidental deletions
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Enemy_of_the_state 13 Feb
Aviation accidents happen all the time, people are just paying more attention since a commercial airliner went down, which is rare (in the USA, anyhow).
Many airmen have lost friends in mishaps. I have. Even though airline travel is incredibly safe, that is only a fraction of the world of aviation. To get to the nice pay and safe environment of flying airliners, you have to pay your dues doing more dangerous flying. Air ambulance, flight training, military, night cargo...many of these are single-pilot operations, with no one to catch your mistakes. Sometimes its your mistake as the pilot, it could be maintenance, or ATC, or an act of God. There might be something you can do, and sometimes it works.
You are just one man in a machine with far less redundancy than a modern airliner, with less support, at lower altitudes, in the weather, often at night, and many times in non-radar/no-ATC environments. You need a little luck to survive enough mistakes to learn from them and not repeat them.
Those of us that do it, love it.
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