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207 sats \ 3 replies \ @zuspotirko OP 12 Feb
- The clearest point seems to be that they decided a peace deal in Ukraine will probably happen very fast now
- Ominous: Discussing the strength of the Dollar? What were they discussing?
- Unclear: Middle east? Artificial Intelligence? What do these subjects have to do with Putin?
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329 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 12 Feb
Russia has always been heavily involved in the Middle East, although not as much as America.
I imagine Trump wants Russia to be reintegrated into the global financial system and resume using dollars for international commerce.
Fingers crossed on a peace deal. This enormous loss of life never needed to happen.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 12 Feb
Russia is now subservient to China and Chinas plans for global power.
Russia is reliant upon Chinas purchase of its oil and gas (at a discount to market prices) and for settlement if trade payments via Chinas alternative to SWIFT.
China is reverse engineering the wests monetary hegemony via the point of original imposition- Hong Kong.
Get used to the west fighting a rearguard and defensive battle against Chinas steady advance upon the global institutions, protocols and mechanisms of global trade and diplomacy.
China has won the trade war- it's mixed economy is demonstrably more effective than the wests crony capitalism.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 12 Feb
Russia has led the BRICS proposal to use its own currency rather than USD for trade.
Russia now settles most of its trade payments via Chinese channels outside of the USD/SWIFT/BIS network controlled by America.
Trump has previously threatened BRICS nations (led by Russia on this matter) that if they stop using the USD/SWIFT he will sanction them and punish them harshly- well Russia has already been sanctioned and excluded from SWIFT.
So clearly Trump wants Russia back using the USD rather than Chinese trade settlement alternative that Russia has been using.
Iran (another BRICS member already and for many years uses and is reliant upon Chinese trade settlement routes.
Trump is afraid if more nations move to the Chinese trade payments alternative the USD and USA ~ will be fucked.
And hes not wrong.
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49 sats \ 4 replies \ @freetx 12 Feb
Great news! Hopefully a resolution comes about that is favorable to Ukraine.
Besides just being good on the face of it, this will put tremendous pressure on countries like Iran to behave, since Putin & Trump are now working so closely together.
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @zuspotirko OP 12 Feb
I hope the resolution will be hawkish enough to send a clear message to Xi to never touch Taiwan ever
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 12 Feb
Good luck with that.
Why should China accept the loss of a breakaway territory that stole their gold reserves and is a stooge to US imperialism?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko OP 15h
Taiwan is a free and independent country
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 15h
No- It is militarily and monetarily a subservient tribute state to the USA.
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55 sats \ 1 reply \ @Shugard 12 Feb
Let's see how much Ukraine will be involved in these negotiations. Or if two superpower just split a country like Germans and Sowjets did with Poland
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9 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 12 Feb
Many believe that's been what's been going on from the start. That the Ukrainian gov is a puppet being used as a pawn to bleed Putin in hopes of him losing power.
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66 sats \ 4 replies \ @SwapMarket 12 Feb
Trump acts as if Zelensky, not Putin, started this war. Ukraine, and then Europe, are so screwed...
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @optimism 23h
Meh! The only person able to demonstrate blitzkrieg lately has been Elon and he did it on retirement age bureaucrats by sending in the nerds.
Mr Putin on the other hand has learned that the military might of his armies is nowhere to be found. Despite his trusted subordinates confidence.
I'd worry more about Europeans self-owning than Russians if I were caring about the EUs future.
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100 sats \ 2 replies \ @SwapMarket 22h
Still, Putin occupied resource rich Donetsk region and will keep it. Russia has militarized its economy and nationalized (stole) many private enterprises. There is no going back any time soon. The process must continue for him to stay in power. As Russian saying goes, "appetite comes with eating".
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 22h
Having lived there for a couple years, I always thought it was "appetite comes with water (becomes vodka after a few bottles of that)" 😂
But yes, you are right. They may get to keep it if Trump "makes a deal". It's a bad precedent, but no worse than anything post-ww2. Not sure what resource rich low hanging fruit there is in europe tho? Romania isn't easy because mountains, sweden definitely wasn't easy before, and as a NATO member it's even worse. Don't forget that even if the US exits NATO today, the other members will still be forced to honor Article 5 and they too have F35s that can shoot down a MiG from 1000km away.
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 14h
The rest of the Ukraine first, after a short regrouping.
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125 sats \ 0 replies \ @fiatbad 12 Feb
I'm very hopeful, but equally skeptical.
I imagine Trump talked 90% of the that conversation and that all he did was repeat his usual talking points.
Then Putin said, "Cool story, bro." Then hung up.
And Trump took that as a sign that Putin agreed and everything's going to be peaches and sunshine now.
Putin's plans are long-term. A phone call from Trump isn't gonna do shit. Trump thinks he has more power than he actually does.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Butterfinger 12 Feb
Thank God, and men of with common sense and the will to stop it.
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9 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet 12 Feb
Same day the new DNI is confirmed, the DNI who's been on about the bioweopon labs in Ukraine... coincidence surely.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 12 Feb
DNI?
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 23h
Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intel
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 12 Feb
Praying for peace
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21 sats \ 7 replies \ @denlillaapan 12 Feb
don't think "millions of people" have died in Ukraine, but sure. Otherwise, I'll take it
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24 sats \ 6 replies \ @Shugard 12 Feb
Do we even have accurate numbers?
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100 sats \ 5 replies \ @denlillaapan 12 Feb
probs not but no way a million.
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11 sats \ 4 replies \ @optimism 23h
If you take both sides estimates of the others losses, its around 1.8M by now tho?
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100 sats \ 3 replies \ @denlillaapan 23h
...quick googling gave me 10-15k. Not sure how that translates into millions
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11 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 23h
From a month ago: Ukrainians say 800k losses on Russian side: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/jaw-dropping-loss-human-life-russia-ukrainian-war-214355
From October 2024: "As for Ukrainian troops, the Russian Ministry of Defence estimates that Kyiv has lost almost half a million men, according to a report published last month by the RT news website.": https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/16/russia-ukraine-wartime-deaths
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 12 Feb
If I were in the Ukrainians' place, I would offer Trump all resources, everything, the land... currently occupied by Russians. Take it all, it just needs to be "cleansed" of Russians.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @flat24 19h
Will Trump be able to stop the war?
I think that would only happen if Ukraine surrenders, I don't think Russia has any intention of withdrawing.
The US couldn't use the dollar against Russia, they tried of course, but without success. They were expecting the Russians to collapse and it didn't happen.
Also, let's remember that the US lives off of financing wars and selling weapons.
I think it's quite difficult for them to cease fire in Ukraine.
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