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David O. Sacks and Chamath Palihapitiya had this exchange on their All In podcast a few years back. What I saw opened my eyes to the reality of shitcoins. I recognized Chamath right away from CNBC, but I didn’t recognize Sacks as the guy chuckling along with him, enjoying the fiat he earned by rug pulling unsuspecting fortune seekers. They sure looked like they were having fun.
Fast forward to 2025. Sacks was shopping for his new $10.3 million D.C. home while naive MAGAs sucked up his latest Presidential shitcoins. The whole gang shared in the profits.
It’s good to be the Crypto (and A.I.) Czar
Sacks is a member of The Paypal Mafia, along with Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. J.D. Vance is a Thiel protege. The Economist wrote an article titled The Paypal Mafia is taking over America’s Government.
All I have to do is read this article by Whitney Webb to be terrified of Thiel, Vance, Elon and Sacks. On the other hand, when I overdose on Whitney I become convinced my dog is a globalist.
A big chunk of the bitcoin community has decided to accept the Trump administration as being flawed, but more good than bad, or something to that effect. They acknowledge the shitcoin problem, but they focus on what they see as the bright side:
  • Biden And Kamala Are Gone
  • Ross is free.
  • Trump is a noob. He will learn.
  • Having a “crypto” friendly White House will benefit bitcoin.
  • Bitcoiners will be allowed to do more stuff
  • Devs will have less fear of being shut down or thrown in jail on a whim.
  • Hodlers will get more advantageous tax treatment.
And... the gigantic elephant sitting in the corner:
  • NGU
Sacks can fairly be called an OG bitcoiner, as he claims to have made his first purchase in 2013. Now he’s better known for his solana investments.
On the All-In podcast in 2021, he said:
“There’s smart money in Silicon Valley betting on a flipping where Solana overtakes Ethereum as the preferred platform.”
His involvement doesn’t stop there. David backs Multicoin Capital, a crypto investment firm, adding more weight to his reputation as a blockchain believer.
It’s not that he doesn’t understand bitcoin’s revolutionary potential. The guy is very smart. He graduated from Stanford University and The University Of Chicago Law School. He said this in December:
“The Church and state used to be intrinsically linked... Now, we think about them being separate. Bitcoin, it’s sort of this sci-fi future where you could maybe have these two things decoupled.” David saw Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat inflation and censorship.
What a weak, lukewarm statement. You could maybe have these two things decoupled? This potential cypherpunk would rather pump his bags and extol the virtues of “blockchain technology.”

The Sly, Roundabout Way

I am reading Erik Cason’s book Cryptosovereignty. Cason identified as a socialist as a young man. He learned about 19th and 20th century anarchists including Proudhorn, Bakuin, Goldman, and Rocker. I think it’s fair to say that today he would identify as a crypto anarchist. Some bitcoiners, like Michael Saylor, disdain this idea, have no problem working in the U.S. dollar system, and even question the need for self custody. In a MAGA world we probably will be ALLOWED to do more with our bitcoin, but that attitude betrays the ideas upon which bitcoin was built. As Cason writes:
Satoshi saw that the cypherpunks had a political philosophy that was rooted in anarchism and did not rely on traditional sovereignty, law, or prohibitions to create systems of power. Instead, cypherpunks wrote code, used cryptography, and built systems that did not need the same physical force, violence, or permissions of authority that all contemporary legal orders need to consummate their power.
Cason then quotes John Perry Barlow, who wrote these words:
You [governments] have no sovereignty where we gather. We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one… I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.
— John Perry Barlow,  A Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace
This hit home. I feel a close connection to Barlow, who I have written about before. I admit I’m no hero. The government has big guns and scary prisons. We should all take precautions. But that doesn’t mean that we should ask Big Daddy for favors like good little toadies. To paraphrase The Who, we don’t want the new boss to be the same as the old boss.
Cason says this:
The goal of Bitcoin is to fundamentally disengage traditional forms of sovereign power, law, and the violence they must always contain in order to create something better and more fitting for our times. With Bitcoin the sovereign decision becomes the individual’s choice alone. The code guarantees and assures itself through cryptographic proofs, which alone makes it sovereign.
While reading this passage, I thought about Sacks, Elon, Thiel, Don Jr. and Trump himself:
...these are the very people who are the real crypto-anarchists. The secret of what is occurring is concealed to them in the deepest of ways in order to make them into the greatest allies in our cause. Their blindness and hubris has allowed them to thoughtlessly believe they could bring Bitcoin into the vulnerable inner cloister of the state financial system, where their infinite fiat money will never be able to defend itself against the immovable fixed supply of Bitcoin. They more than any other group have help propel Bitcoin deep into the heart of financial Troy, sincerely believing the gigantic horse of blockchain was a gift from God to dignify their new world order and panoptic surveillance CBDCs.
Pretty much every crypto project out there consists of a group of sycophants who will praise Bitcoin while failing to understand why Bitcoin is the only real crypto project that there is. The crypto bros have mutilated the technology of Bitcoin to create new systems of surveillance, new modes of manipulation, and greater means of state empowerment than has ever been concocted. The crypto bros have been given the greatest technology that has ever been given to man, and they have chosen to clone and mutilate it just to deepen their own enslavement for the sick and pathetic means of more fiat money. The crypto bros are nothing more than a group of corrupted men who will lead us into a darkness from which we cannot escape if we do not resist their ways.
They have lost their own way while leading the state to interlope into our realm with their CBDCs [AKA Tether] and the vacancy that is their ‘crypto’ which is broken, transparent, and insecure. A total misunderstanding of that which is truly crypto and they will only realize that in the final turn in which they realize they have led the procession of the horse into Troy, where Bitcoiners lie hidden inside waiting for the right time to strike.

This Too Shall Pass

Trump Coin, Melania Coin, Doge Coin will all have their brief moments in the sun. Trump’s inner circle will get even richer. This crew says nice things about bitcoin, but I’m pretty sure that’s because of the big fiat value attached to its ticker symbol. Either that, or they see it as a way to keep the party going with a Bitcoin Dollar. It isn’t surprising. These people are fiat kings. They play the system and win. Their disregard for the fundamental difference between bitcoin and their shitcoins matters. It can’t just be dismissed as “the boys just having fun.” It matters because Trump, Elon, Sacks, Thiel and the rest intend to embrace fiat in a modern, digital form. Same shitty fiat crammed into a shiny new container. It still stinks.
Bitcoin has other plans, whether they like it or not.
301 sats \ 2 replies \ @freetx 3 Feb
solana will flip eth
I honestly never paid attention to SOL, nor used it. But this actually wouldn't surprise me.
I'm not saying this in defense of SOL, since I think it too will continue to bleed in sats for all eternity, just that as "utility coins" go, it seems like a better utility.....
I saw someone give a talk recently that said that PoW was the last remaining differentiator that ETH had over SOL....and with the move to PoS its just the more costly version.
As someone who had to endure the "FLIPPENING" hysteria of 2017, its both funny and strangely pathetic to watch ETH actually die. Its a bit like seeing the man you used to hate, but now he is a frail old dying man....
The very very fundamental problem all shitcoins have, especially those who are trying to compete on their "tech utility" is that their price will tend towards their utility value + some profit margin.
There is no reason why eth can't trade forever at $280 or whatever their marginal utility value might be.....no different than how a toothbrush or shovel is priced.
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I remember hearing a few years ago that solana would just crash for no reason. No one talks about that anymore. I guess since it's really a company they can just go in and fix the problem whenever they feel like it.
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @MANI 3 Feb
Trump and his family are buying massive amount of ETH regularly so not sure what they're cooking..
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351 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 3 Feb
@siggy47 we've traded one set of elites scum bags for another set. I'm not convinced the current set is worse than the previous but I sure don't trust either of them nor do I think its game over. I don't have hope in Trump or his puppet masters.
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This is why I don’t fear KYC as much. They may know I have purchased bitcoin but they can’t push a button and take it away from me like you can do with anything else in the fiat system.
But one thing Saif’s book does well is point out the good thing fiat has done for the human species. Some might say it’s in spite of fiat but you can’t deny the results that it has to improved the life of lower and middle class people.
This is why I don’t get upset about tether and the digital dollar. People who would never have access to a dollar can get access and then save in bitcoin. That is a net positive all day long. And under Trump more people can take their destiny into their own hands.
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It's strange you posted this just now. I am preparing my weekly Golden Oldies post, and one of them discusses some of the exact same issues you are talking about re impoverished people and fiat. I just got done reading it. Also, I'm working my way through the Libbitcoin Cryptoeconomics book(?)
They may know I have purchased bitcoin but they can’t push a button and take it away from me like you can do with anything else in the fiat system.
This point is really hammered home.
And under Trump more people can take their destiny into their own hands.
This remains to be seen. Also, Tether and the digital dollar can be turned on and off at will.
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Yea hopefully you can buy the sats and withdraw them to a private key you own. Before they turn off your money.
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150 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 3 Feb
Bitcoin has other plans, whether they like it or not.
Incentives work and bitcoin has them deep in the protocol. Most do not even understand this including these elites.
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Yes man. This is where we our conviction. It’s as simple as incentives! The Bitcoin network will continue to grow because people are incentivized to use it. Teachers teach teachers users teach users businesses teach businesses… it never stops.
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Brilliant article.
On the other hand, when I overdose on Whitney I become convinced my dog is a globalist.
It's funny because it's true.
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Thanks. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one re Whitney.
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Does she have evidence besides six degrees of separation?
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101 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 3 Feb
This is the problem I have with her most of the time. I'm not saying she's directionally wrong or even wrong. Sometimes people just take her statements as fact when its not. And she comes off as black pilled to me and I'm just not buying that its game over or even close to that. I don't think she's really black pilled herself but I think her presentations ARE black pills for far too many people.
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596 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 3 Feb
My problem with the black pilled people that LOVE her is that the black pill becomes an excuse to be passive and bitter instead of resistant and hopeful. We have NOT lost hope. Its not game over. Not even close. Look at the Soviet Union. We are no where near where they were. If you think we are... you need to learn more about just how bad it was before the empire fell. I'm not saying we are on the right path. I'm just saying we aren't the USSR yet. And you know what. It fell and its far better to live in nations where that flag flew today than it was then.
Today we have bitcoin. We have many more freedoms. We have the Internet. We have the ability to alter the future. Resist the temptation to take the black pill. Don't be a fool and swallow the blue pill but hope is not lost.
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Honestly, if Webb would just take two minutes at the end of her talks to speak to this... I'd have a very different opinion of her. Because she doesn't she comes off as a doomer and not a realist.
My cat is part of the deep state
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You think you're telling me something I don't know? 😀
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You always need to be wary of politicians promises. 99% of the time, they dont keep them. But the paypal group has been doing more and more suspicious things lately. The old guard will have to keep their eyes on them, and all the shitcoinery that they produce and promote.
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Great post. This indeed shall pass and bitcoin will do what it is going to do regardless of these folks.
I wouldn’t completely write Sacks off. I think he is a bitcoiner but of course got seduced by the perverse incentives of crypto. His fund craft was a major investor in Fold. He is very smart. I don’t mind him being AI/crypto czar.
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On the other hand, when I overdose on Whitney I become convinced my dog is a globalist.
Webb in small doses. Small doses.
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You hit the nail on the head with this post and you have told the truth, these people have only served as actors in this story, including Trump who has come to the White House and created his own shicoiner.
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Exactly same to my beliefs! I also think all these men who are currently trying to be with shotcoining are greedy people. They know what's better but they also know who they can manipulate.
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Don't forget to add the excellent investigative articles by James Corbett: The Strange Story of Peter Thiel. This story have a huge impact on Bitcoin and all "things" around.
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Corbett does great work. He's the first one I ever heard break down the WEF back in 2020. I remember listening to him talk about it with my wife. We were telling some of our "conservative" family at the time and they had no interest. Then when Fox News started talking about the WEF (in stupid ways I might add) then they started talking about it. They had no memory of the things I shared.
People hear what they want to hear.
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where's elon? I don't recognize him in the photo.
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that photo is not real, is a montage too look like mafia.
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😂 which one's elon?
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Well, if it only takes a billion or so to grow it back nicely, I guess he can do it if he likes. Me, I wouldn’t bother with it. Must say, they did a nice job of it, if they are both Elon Musk not Elon and doppelgänger.
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I can't tell. Is he behind shades? Edit: No. Apparently he got superimposed in some versions of the photo later.
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