I think that carving out Jefferson is a great idea! It has been in the works for a long time now because those people despise what is going on in the big cities on the west coast. There is also the Greater Idaho movement that is looking to carve out a huge chunk of Oregon and Washington and becoming part of Idaho. These are good ideas, in my estimation, but hindered by the big cities that don’t want to loose their ~farming slaves~ citizens. It sure would make things more simple.

That's a good point. Carving out the State of Jefferson from Northern Cali and Southern Oregon could fix that, though.

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Now Is a Great Time for California to Secede

Yes, but they have all the ports of entry for their progressive/lefty/Marxist/socialist/communist/murderering buddies in foreign lands. Do you think that giving them the great west coast ports to enter by would be a good deal for everybody on the east side of the Sierras? I don’t think so. Again, this is another blood of patriots and tyrants watering the tree of liberty scenario.