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Interview with DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfengwww.chinatalk.media/p/deepseek-ceo-interview-with-chinas
3577 sats \ 6 comments \ @MaxAWebster 8h AI
This is from Nov 2024 but well worth the read. The founder comes across as incredibly thoughtful and even noble. Who knows what's actually going on behind the scenes and what ulterior motives he may or may not have, but reading this, I couldn't help but wonder: when did a Chinese entrepreneur become the one focused on releasing open source, driving down costs for all, and winning through innovation and competition in a free market while our most well known American AI entrepreneurs (with the exception of Elon) seem hellbent on winning via proprietary secrets and regulatory capture? Weird state of affairs.
If you had told me that in 2025 a Chinese hedge fund would be giving the world AI for free while an American non-profit would be charging $200/month for similar tech, I probably wold not have believed you.
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160 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 6h
I read a super fascinating take on the Chinese startup industry, that was something like:
American model: one startup survives, becomes quasi-monopoly, industry sparse, founders / investors gets insanely rich.
Chinese model: a number of startups survive, compete viciously, costs crater, founders / investors make little money, industry vibrant, consumers benefit.
I don't know enough to defend either perspective rigorously, but it's a very evocative expression of different kinds of outcomes, and how you can optimize for different things, and how foundational stuff can be invisible to the people inside the system.
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420 sats \ 1 reply \ @roytheholographicuniverse 8h
Is America becoming China and China becoming America? Copernican trauma.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Riberet 5h
This is probably the most accurate answer.
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 8h
Optimistic take is people aren't lying when they say all bets are off with AI. I skimmed this over the weekend. Super exciting to see quants doing something a little more directly productive/generative.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Shugard 6h
Also this open source development is so much better for the Bitcoin space and nostr! Everyone can build everything! That's so fucking awesome!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NovaRift 7h
They created thrill and excitement like when ChatGPT was first launched.
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