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Ok, just a bit of fun here, so don’t pulverize me too hard!
So I was thinking about this because every time I go to the toy shop I am shocked at the cost of Duplo and Lego and think, man I’m glad I kept my Duplo and Lego stuff, the kids don’t play with it much now, but still, it’s still quality shit! I am literally keeping this stuff for grandkids to enjoy.
But the thought did pop into my mind about how much my old treasured Lego sets sitting in the attic in the UK would be worth now.
And then I got to thinking - is Lego a better store of value/inflation hedge than fiat? So I went down a little rabbit hole on a couple of the sets I have (I have more but can't remember them all) and here are the results (caveat, we will assume the Lego was bought as an investment and kept boxed and in good condition etc).
My example sets
For my examples, I’ll use my two favourite sets as a kid – the pirate galleon and the black castle.
Using the waybackmahchine I found a copy of the 1989 Argos catolouge (a popular store in the UK) and refreshed my mind on the prices of the sets (Lego was never cheap, in relative terms, I would get a set a year for xmas usually).
So we have the classic 6085 LEGO Black Knights Black Monarch's Castle at £31 (£31 in 1989 would have been equivalent to between $46.81 and $56.42, depending on the specific exchange rate at the time of conversion.)
Then we have the Black Seas Barracuda 6285 at £47 (about $73.53 in 1989)
Adjusted for inflation (using this inflation calculator https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator ) we have:
Black Monarch's Castle (£31) - adjusted is now about £80 (about 99 USD) The Black Seas Barracuda (£47) - adjusted is about £122 (about 151 USD)
So obviously just holding that total of £78 in cash would be a terrible move and would have tiny purchasing power today (fiat loses, as it always does), but just how much worse than Lego is it?
Since these sets are long discontinued, we need to check the resale value of those unboxed Lego sets.
Fortunately, there are legions of Lego lovers and fascinating resources (like this https://www.brickeconomy.com/set/10040-1/lego-pirates-black-seas-barracuda) to look at things like this.
So, since monitoring here are the estimates on the ship
Pirate Galleon looking pretty good at around £1217 ($1510) on the second-hand markets
Now the castle
Nice performance on the castle too at over £2178 ($2704)
(If you are curious about the crazy value of some of these Lego pieces, you can go here https://www.brickeconomy.com/sets/top/most-valuable-lego-sets)
Now, while you might say, of course Lego beats fiat, everything does, let’s go back in time and see what the value of those Lego sets, invested in gold and the SnP500 would be worth.
SNP500 For the sake of ease, we will combine the value of the two sets in 1989 and switch to USD, since we’re talking snp.
So the castle (roughly adjusted to 47 USD) + the ship (roughly at $73) = about 120 dollars.
Using Deepseek, I asked what the value of $120 invested in 1989 would be, and here’s what the total might look like:
Nominal Value (not adjusted for inflation): Approximately $3,065.64 (using 10% average returns).
Now, let’s combine the top-end, current value estimation of those Lego sets: Pirate ship – $1271 Black castle - $2178
Total $3449, so Lego has beaten the nominal value of the SnP500, nice.
Now let’s look at gold (I used chatGPT on this one).
Gold
In December 1989, the closing price of gold was $403.05 per troy ounce and as of January 28, 2025, gold was priced at $2,762.60 per troy ounce.
So the $120 investment in gold in 1989 (0.2977oz) would be worth approximately $822.83 today, unadjusted.
So, another stunning defeat for Peter Shiff and the gold bugs, and a big win for the theoretical guy that has been hoarding Lego sets in mint condition since 1989!
Bonus zaps for any stackers that share the estimated value of their favourite childhood lego sets using https://www.brickeconomy.com/
Holy crap, I had a lot of fun with my Barracuda (also had a pirate island set from that time) (didn't even know it was named thus). I wonder if I still have it stashed somewhere.
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ha, i just reminded that i had the pirate island also and another pirate ship with blue sales, i used to love that little lego shark
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53 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE 19h
This is so fascinating to know. I was born and brought up in rural India, used to make castles of sand near the river. TBH Legos can't beat that fun put any price to them.
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the only way to beat it would be playing with a lego caste after coming home sand castle building in the river
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46 sats \ 3 replies \ @xz 29 Jan
I'm a big Lego fan. Not sure what happened to it all of it. Apparently I have it somewhere. On the economic side, it's a bit over my head to think about but love the idea of an economy of Lego. If I relocate it all some day, I think I'd be happy to find a P2P swap and buy/sell market. My favorite is the bonsai tree but I don't have that.
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it's quite interesting to see all the little cottage industries that have popped up around lego. i see one on facebook sometimes and it's basically a company that makes little lighting kits for lego sets
did you ever see the Toys that made us episode on lego? it was a good one
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32 sats \ 1 reply \ @xz 11h
On my list. Thanks, never heard of that.
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it's a good one, whole season was good for any 70, 80 and 90s kid
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Fungible vs non-fungible assets.
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That's so funny. None of the things I thought would increase in value did: cards, pogs, action figures. However, all those legos that we just gave away are worth a fortune now.
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im pretty sure i still have teh pogs in the attack somewhere too. i was always more into the collecting of them, never had the balls to play for keeps lol
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Probably action figures are worth a lot to collectors, if boxed, not as much as Lego tho!
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Not mine and they also weren't boxed.
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Let's be honest , nobody ever kept the boxes
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100 sats \ 2 replies \ @flat24 29 Jan
a fantastic post... this comparison of how to preserve value through "Lego" is excellent, very similar to what @lunaticoin expressed in the podcast L208 with the "Magic" cards
Now I only have one question... Lego continues to manufacture pieces that are just as good as they were in (1989) 🤔
because something that this fiduciary system has achieved is the degradation of everything that is manufactured. A great example is the "Hot-wheels cars", today they are not even half of the cars that I owned in my childhood, manufactured between the 80's and 90's.
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that's very cool, we should get a pokemon cards Vs fiat post going.
as for lego, from what i've seen , the quality is just as great, i picked up the Ghostbusters Lego Firehouse a few years back and it's top-notch. the Danish haven't diluted the quality.
some of the toy quality back in the 1990s was pretty great. the power ranger toys were fantastic quality back then, especially the zords
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14 sats \ 0 replies \ @flat24 9h
that's very cool, we should get a pokemon cards Vs fiat post going.
It's a fantastic idea
the Danish haven't diluted the quality.
It is a relief and worth seeing how some brands have remained firm regarding the quality of their products.
keeping the old motto, "made for life."
today many go with the (Fast) model, degrading the quality so it lasts less and so you buy more.
some of the toy quality back in the 1990s was pretty great.
During Christmas, while out with my family, we saw a fair where they had two toy collections on display, one of the "Knights of the Zodiac" and another of "Transformers."
It was fantastic to see how great some toys looked after 20 or 30 years. I even saw a model that I ended up owning.
The point is that I told my wife to look at the quality of the toys. And see the details and the finish.
Then we went to other stores where you had supposedly original "Marvel" toys, because we were in a fairly well-known shopping center in the City. And seeing those toys compared to the ones I used as a child and the ones we just saw at the fair, makes you want to cry.
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Thanks for sharing! We just got back from Legoland Florida and my boys had a class with a master brick builder in the resort! We had a blast!
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that sounds dope, master brick builder sounds like the kind of job every lego lover would want to have
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Very interesting, thanks.
This makes me think of an aunt of mine, passed away now. She and her husband had invested in collectibles, but antiques. What was "in" while they were collecting was antique hand-knotted oriental rugs. They were very beautiful, bought mostly in the 1970's, 1980's. My aunt and uncle had loads of these very expensive rugs, it was meant to be their legacy.
However, it turns out that they didn't keep their value at all. The rugs didn't even keep up with inflation. And it turns out that many of them had issues with moths.
I think part of it was that fashion had changed. One thing that would have been dirt-cheap to purchase, when they were purchasing the rugs, was mid-century modern furniture - that would have appreciated a lot.
So...that whole story made me really think twice about any sort of collectible. Not that I'm interested in any case, 'cause I'm into bitcoin.
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this reminds me a bit of the Better Call Saul episode where Jimmy learns finds out that the Bavarian Boy Hummel figurine on display where he used to work is worth a fortune.
He then stole it and swapped it for a fake and sold the real one for a ton lol
still, it's hard to predict but one thing we have now is parents are passing down the nostalgia and keeping it alive and a lot of the legacy brands are staying with the times doing movie tie-ins and stuff
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The original yellow Lego castle is worth quite a bit.
Reminds me of the Simpsons episode with the Malibu Staci collection
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i expect a few people have them in pristine condition ready to retire on
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You can get good money for lego sets u could definitely buy out the cool ones like Star Wars and hope to sell for close to face value or more a few years down the road
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i wouldn't have the space, but as long as i stack enough, i should be able to afford one in the future if i ever fancied it lol
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