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Phoenix also runs the node on your phone.

Can someone check this? I feel like Zeus does most things client side, even pathfinding. Hence the decrease in user experience.
@DarthCoin @zeus

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109 sats \ 6 replies \ @nout 29 Jan

Zeus has multiple options that are quite advanced. You can pick their LSP (Lightning Service Provider), connect it to your remote node, manage custodial wallets, etc. One of the options is it can run lnd node natively on your phone.

Phoenix has simpler user experience and you can (afaik) only use it with the @ACINQ LSP. Phoenix runs the node on your phone and it creates a private channel to ACINQ, and afaik the ACINQ node does trampoline routing - so specifically to your question I'm not sure if your phone or ACINQ node does the pathfinding.

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acinq is doing the pathfinding in phoenix case.
Yes indeed phoenix is a node on your phone, "a light node".
I wish we have more trampoline routing options in other LN implementations.

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109 sats \ 1 reply \ @nout 29 Jan

It seems @ACINQ is now leading a lot of these bleeding edge capabilities - splicing, trampoline routing, BOLT12, etc.
In the meanwhile lnd focuses on shitcoin factory :/

I wish that we would have Phoenix experience, but it would somehow allow migrating the channels to another LSP super easily when things go wrong with ACINQ (and without any need for ACINQ interaction) and relatedly it would also allow using different nodes for trampoline routing.

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In the meanwhile lnd focuses on shitcoin factory :/

I can't agree more...

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I thought Phoenix and acinq left USA last May

They have good tech support btw

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9 sats \ 1 reply \ @nout 29 Jan

They are not in app stores in the US, but you can download the app directly from github or from Obtanium and it just works.

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right, good call, my mistake

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here you have the main differences

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