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I maintain a list entitled "most important forces in the world" and on this list is an item called reality fracture, the idea that we (for most definitions of "we" that you could come up with) don't inhabit the same psychological worlds.
This isn't the "people don't share the same values anymore" observation that has always been true as far as I can tell, reality fracture is people literally not understanding the reality of their next door neighbors. Even well-meaning people of good conscience are alien to each other. Even people you know you like, or used to like, are drifting. It's why you go to Thanksgiving and believing that your uncle has gone mad; your uncle, for his part, believes the same about you.
Anyway, this article has lots of things to say and I have lots of thoughts about it, but it did a good job making the idea vivid. And gross.
For pretty much my entire life, culturally iconic media — TV, movies, rock & roll, comic books, video games — were the only visible signs of a cohesive Americanness. I watched the same cartoons that my dad did, and those were the same shorts my grandfather saw in the theater, or at least the same characters he read in the comic strips. These were shared bonds across generations, something to talk about and relate to.
Today, there are no intergenerational cultural touchstones. Thus, there is a comically tragic sense in which the Baby Boomer lament about “the breakdown of consensus” and “divisiveness” really amounts to the disappearance of Bugs Bunny and Popeye from the airwaves, since they had already uprooted everything more meaningful.
And it's not just intergenerational -- that's the whole point of the fracture.
I have to remind my son that if he’s going to pretend to be Sgt. Slaughter or the Big O on the playground, he’s going to have to explain it to the other kids, and don’t expect them to understand if you pop open an invisible can of spinach and punch them in the face. But we quickly discovered the other kids, even the ones that drink from the poisoned faucet of 2020s pop culture, are in the same boat. They all have different streaming services and subscribe to different YouTube channels and, God forbid, TikTokers. Their only overlap is accidental moments of ‘virality’ that are quickly forgotten.
Nothing in common. No common ground to start from. Falling apart.
I just got back from a comedy show and it was bonkers to me how consensus reality, as portrayed by the performers, was not one I recognize. Comedy is a good barometer for what people think is real. It was disorienting and unsettling.
No takeaway. This is the current moment, I guess. You can imagine it accelerating, as we fork off into our own universes even more, each with our private art collections. Who knows where the world goes now.
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Just imagine. 50 years ago, the country united behind one or two news broadcasters, and really trusted them. Especially before Nixon happened and Watergate... 150 years ago though information was disseminated via a plethora of local news papers... Pre radio/TV. Makes you think. Maybe we're getting back to a world where information hits our senses in a cacophony of mediums and memes and methods.
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Crazy to imagine -- wasn't a newscaster voted the "most trusted man in America" or something? Seems like I read that.
Maybe we're getting back to a world where information hits our senses in a cacophony of mediums and memes and methods.
We are surely at that point already. I guess we'll see what the consequences are, and what structures / institutions / practices arise in response.
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It feels overstated, although directionally important.
The shows I watched, comics I read, and games I played as a kid were almost entirely things that didn't exist when my parents were kids.
All the kids at my daughter's preschool seem familiar with the popular kids shows today. They can all fluently play Paw Patrol or Bluey, for example.
Maybe the issue is more like reduced intergenerational exchange rather than lack of passing down. Fewer people have kids, which reduces the share of adults who are familiar with what the next generation is up to.
It's easy to see how adults who don't have kids could just be adrift in their own curated realities.
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"adrift in their own curated realities"
very poetic
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Appreciate the context.
Interesting to consider that having kids is, itself, one of the handful of anchors common to many people's experience -- something foundational and primal. The falloff in having children becomes, therefore, an additional cut line tethering us to each other.
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When you're about to have kids, your allegiance involuntarily shifts to other parents.
There's definitely a major loss of shared purpose that accompanies lower fertility.
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i've thought about this in a different way and from the lens of my kids.
So for context, I'm from the UK, wife is Russian and we live in Bulgaria, my kids are therefore not culturally one thing (this is called being a 3rd culture kid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_culture_kid)
Anyway, I think back to when I grew up and if you were a kid of the 80s and 90s in the West, in general, you had a shared cultural identity of the same cartoons, entertainment etc.
Now I think it has just shifted because everyone consumes their own media and it's either youtube, shittok or netflix. before you had the cartoons on after school, that was it.
So there is a downside in that we're all getting a different thing, but an upside in that, people have their own little minitribes.
one upside IMO is I notice the kids watch the same YouTubers as each other and the same one that a kid in the UK would watch. while I think it's garbage, my kids could go most places and they're all enjoying the same awful skibidi toilet jokes and playing Minecraft as everyone else.
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So there is a downside in that we're all getting a different thing, but an upside in that, people have their own little minitribes.
I'm very glad to get this message -- as with @Undisciplined's point earlier, the idea that perhaps there is an overlay, where people know the people around them way less, and perhaps intergenerationally way less, but nonetheless have some sort of common cultural ties on another temporal/spatial scale, feels less apocalyptic.
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What happened at the comedy show that felt reality fracturing?
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References to certain local events (don't wanna dox myself) where the performers acted like the meaning of those events, and the context of the events, was X, when to me, the meaning is far away from X.
This sounds dumb in the abstract, I realize; but it's the kind of interpretive gulf that you're probably familiar with for anything that approaches politics. It's just that in this case, everything was so concrete, it's like being told a false story about something that happened in front of your eyes, and seeing other people agreeing with the story like it's consensus reality.
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That's how I feel whenever I go on Reddit.
But then I come back to SN and everything feels super based, and I can re-center myself :)
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😅😅
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Interesting observation and it seems accurate. Perhaps it is linked to and driving in part what I see which is an ever decreasing ability for people to discuss almost any topic without the various viewpoints becoming rigidly opposed and intractable. There seems to be an ever declining ability to discuss differences of opinion and viewpoint in a reasonable way where the different viewpoints are respected and their merits considered. Instead any difference of opinion is met with personal attacks, evasion and multiple other crude strategies to avoid a reasonable fact based contest of ideas.
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I think these things are very closely related. It reminds me of the whole genre of "mixup" sitcoms, where one person thinks he's talking about X, and the other person thinks he's talking about Y, and hilarity ensues at the difference between those interpretations -- viewing X as Y and vice-versa.
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There is still common ground, just not the one you want. The constant preaching that you're supposed to either accept people or hate them based on their political ideology.
I'd say it's possible the most prevalent common ground our culture has. sad panda
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So we're united by our common loathing for The Other? Ugh. That's so bleak it's kind of funny.
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Yea, but we also really like people that we would normally hate because they voted the same way, so it balances out. 😁
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