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Saifedean Ammous goes on an excellent thread analyzing Milei's 1 year as president of Argentina. As a side note, I was skeptic from the begging of Milei's promises and many stackers here tried to shut me down... but again, I was right and I feel vindicated by this thread.
As a lesson: NEVER EVER LISTEN TO ANY POLITICIAN THAT CAME TO POWER. THEY ALL LIE! STOP KISSING POLITICIANS ASS.

Javier Milei One Year Assessment
Everyone excited about an Argentina economic miracle is basing it on all sorts of government statistics except the most important statistics: money supply measures and public debt growth.
Under its new supposedly free-market Rothbardian president, Argentina's money supply in 2024 has increased at these astonishing rates:
M0: 209% M1: 133% M2: 93% M3: 123%
To put these numbers in perspective, note that they dwarf the rates during the preceding years, during which Argentina thoroughly earned its reputation as one of the most dysfunctional fiat monetary basket cases in the world.
In the four years of 2020-2023, Argentina’s money supply measures grew at a compound annual growth rate of:
M0: 50% M1: 77% M2: 90% M3: 86%
In Milei’s first six months in office, public debt grew from $370 billion to $442 billion, a staggering increase of 19.4%. Borrowing $72 billion in 6 months can make any economic statistics look good, but the problem of course is in the long-term consequences. It is possible to make short-term growth, poverty, unemployment, or inflation numbers look good by printing and borrowing money, thus transferring the cost of a short-term glow up to the future, where they are paid with exorbitant interest. Those of us who thought things could not possibly get worse might need to reconsider.
Remember that in his election campaign, Milei specifically campaigned on a platform of abolishing the central bank, even saying that that was non-negotiable. Yet as soon as he went into office, all such talk was ignored, and replaced with elaborate stories about how shutting down the central bank would be very politically unpopular. In this, Milei has fully adopted the same statist rhetoric that is always used to justify inflation by governments: the short-term pain of stopping inflation would be so bad, that it's better to continue down the path of inflation and ignore the long-term consequences. The reality is that the Argentine central bank is bankrupt, and the sooner this reality is acknowledged, the quicker it can be overcome. Trying to save the central bank can only be done by piling up debt obligations that will make the future problems even worse. In this, Milei is no different from all his predecessors who sought short-term relief at the expense of the future.
Milei has also refused to default on the public debt, which would have been the Rothbardian solution to finally free his countrymen from eternal debt slavery to pay for the consumption binges of their previous presidents. A default on foreign debt, and a shuttering of the central bank would have caused a few months of painful adjustment, after which the Argentine economy would recover on a solid footing, without even the possibility of a government being able to create inflation or saddle the population with debt. Foreign currency and bitcoin would likely dominate such an economy, and the state would necessarily be limited by the fact that it cannot print money.
By not shutting down the central bank and letting it ramp up its money printing, Milei is sowing the seeds for currency crises in Argentina’s future. By not defaulting and hiring the same bankers who brought calamity to the country in the previous administrations, it seems Milei is eager to get another IMF bailout, which will saddle Argentinians with generational debt slavery and more fiscal crises in the future. Unsurprisingly, he is raising taxes significantly, illustrating that his understanding of Austrian economics is no deeper than the regurgitation of cliches on TV. To increase taxes in order to facilitate more government borrowing is a crime against the people of Argentina to benefit the international banking cartels and the IMF criminals. It is a tyrannical recipe advanced by the Keynesians at the IMF, and has no relation whatsoever to what any real economist worth his salt would advocate.
A lot has been made about Milei reducing the budget deficit, but this is not that important. Argentina’s problem was not that it had a big budget deficit, as its budget deficit has usually been pretty low, under 4% of GDP, the same range as European countries with no major inflation and fiscal problems. The problems have always been in money supply increase and in public debt, both of which have accelerated under Milei in an unprecedented way.
The cherry on top is that Milei has shipped off the little remaining gold Argentina has to London, in search of some yield. Pawning off a politically neutral monetary asset free of counterparty risk in search of a few quick bucks does not inspire confidence. In his book The Ascent of Money, historian Niall Ferguson details how Argentina’s economic problems began when president General Juan Domingo Peron visited the central bank in 1946 and was astonished at how much gold was sitting there. Argentina had more than 1,000 tons of gold at that time, and Peron and his successors would not resist the temptation to finance their spending by running down the gold reserves that should have been backing the people’s money. The past 8 decades of calamity were the predictable consequence. After billions of percentage points in inflation and countless defaults, Argentina’s gold reserves today are no more than 61 tons. By shipping off the last monetary reserve of the future in exchange for a quick buck to allow him to keep paying off debt so he can get another IMF loan, Milei has completed Peron’s inflationary legacy to its logical end. Argentina now has no money of its own, only an ever-growing pile of liabilities from foreign banks replete with political and economic risks. Rothbard must be turning in his grave every time this Peronist invokes him to justify his actions.
This data is astonishing and flies in the face of the hype. But unless someone can show me why this data is wrong, then, for all of his libertarian and free market rhetoric, Milei is a vintage Latin American populist inflationist, buying short-term popularity with long-term inflation and debt, essentially no different from every Argentine leader since Peron. All that his free market rhetoric seems to have achieved is to trick poor Argentines into trusting their broken central bank again instead of trying to find a working alternative like Bitcoin. His anti-socialist rhetoric is nice to listen to, and his hysterical antics, relentless emotional crying, and triumphant theatrics may be amusing to some, but fate usually serves its cruelest dishes to those who celebrate before victory.
On a personal note, I found Milei’s recent attacks on Hans-Hermann Hoppe to be ridiculous. Hoppe was absolutely correct: Milei has not shut down the central bank or defaulted, which would have been the correct course of action for anyone who understands economics and is interested in the wellbeing of the Argentine people, rather than power. Milei simply insulted Hoppe and called him an idiot who doesn’t understand economics. And yet, rather than offer an actual economic argument for keeping the central bank, Milei offered a political argument, straight from the Keynesian textbook--the same argument used by every socialist and Keynesian political leader in history: inflation is needed now, in the short term, because the political costs of stopping it would be too devastating.
To pretend that this is some deep insight into economics is ridiculous; it’s simply a political strategy argument for Milei to remain in power. Putting aside the matter of whether Milei and his fellow socialists and Keynesians are correct, it is ridiculous for Milei to call Hoppe ignorant of economics for not understanding the most elementary and moronic political argument for central banking. The insinuation that Hoppe doesn’t understand economics because he’s an academic whereas Milei is a real world leader achieving results on the ground is also nonsensical. Hoppe--or any random 16 year old--could also achieve everything Milei has achieved in Argentina if allowed to saddle the country with $72 billion of debt in six months and double the money supply in a year.
It would have been far more instructive for Milei to explain why he himself spent his entire electoral campaign saying that closing the central bank was essential and non-negotiable. Was Milei also an idiot who didn't understand economics then? Or is he just another lying opportunist inflationist politician like the ones he made his name attacking?
Receipts:
Money supply statistics from Argentina’s central bank: https://www.bcra.gob.ar/Pdfs/PublicacionesEstadisticas/infomondiae.pdf
396 sats \ 3 replies \ @anon 12 Jan
this post is nonsense and economic illiteracy from a retard that believes in stock-to-flow charts
the cited stats make no sense with the claims made
he doesn't even know what a budget deficit means
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What is wrong with the s2f charts like the one below?
from what I’ve seen so far this one above looks god damn incredibly good no matter the math equation(s) behind.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ca 12 Jan
No model can predict the future because there is no "single" future but a range of paths that have not happened yet. That is what will determine the future price.
Since the unknown is unknown it cannot be modelled.
How you would you have been able to model a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve in 2018? Or how would you model the scenario in which Satoshi moves ₿ from his original addresses in 2032?
It's all non sense.
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No model can predict the future
You mean the economic models?Maybe. Otherwise your statement, if meant in general, is simply wrong and calling it nonsense is your ignorance.
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470 sats \ 2 replies \ @aljaz 12 Jan
i hope at some point the world sees that no politician will solve all of their problems. Some might do some good to improve quality of life for people (like bukele in el salvador) but as long as politicians exist as profession their interest is ultimately never aligned with yours because they need someone to rule over and steal from.
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People equally mostly want to be ruled.
Put most people in a situation where there is no government and they will very swiftly organise to put some form of government in place.
WHY?
Because humans are weak and vulnerable individually and only as an organised group can they gain collective power wealth and security.
This simple and self evident reality seems to go wooooosh over the heads of Libertarians.
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178 sats \ 0 replies \ @aljaz 12 Jan
Noone is saying that everyone needs to lone wolf it. People organizing in groups does not immediately result into a dystopian nanny state that is trying to inject itself into every facet of your life. There is incredible benefit of companionship and community and that has been proven through the history of civilization.
the point of individual freedom is that organization is voluntary, not coerced. Which is a bit different that the current reality. Seeking solutions within systems that depend on them not finding solutions is basic incentive misalignment, not a fail of any libertarian idea.
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My main quibble with this thread is that the graphs begin prior to Milei taking office and the rate of money creation was highest there for most of the metrics.
@didiplaywell has pointed this out a bunch of times, but the previous regime had the printer running overtime in the lead up to Milei coming in.
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it doesn't matter. Where is the promise of shutting down of central bank?
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Don't you know bankers own your government and every government ... except perhaps the CCP in China.
Milei would not be able to close down the central bank - there is not adequate consensus to do that in the Argentine assembly...and it cannot be done via executive order.
But if you look Milei has done a hell of a lot already - its just that Libertarians are not capable of understanding the nature of politics in the real world is getting what can be done done.
Libertarians will forever be pointlessly screeching about what they believe 'should' be done- but they will never do anything, more than complain...because they do not understand and cannot accept the reality that government is a potent factor in the wealth of nations.
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That's why I call it a quibble. Yes, let's see the big promises, now.
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Thank you for your mention. About darthcoin, I'm not wasting a single second of my precious time reading whatever he vomited, let alone debating it. Just leave him being happy in his mom's basement.
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Thank you
Government payroll is down
Inflation is down
Regarding Darth, SN is a great community for armchair quarterbacks and economists and politicians
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Typical answer from a politician ass kisser... enjoy licking his boots.
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And we return to the POLITICIAN Milei's delirium
It's just a gradualist government that won't go deeper into what really matters, and as usually happens, it will fight for its position like any politician does. Politicians like Milei will never want the end of the state... Milei is not the solution, he is part of the problem.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @BTCLNAT 12 Jan
Milei, another one of the bunch. Politicians 💩💩🤮
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You want to live without government?
There are places on this planet that lack any effective government but we don't see you rushing to go there.
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @mo 12 Jan
When people will understand that those persons there are just puppets, we'll be probably in a better world, or in another planet.
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Rich for Libertarians to criticize the one politician in power who is closest to espousing their delusional rhetoric. Criticize politicians and governments all you like but you will not go and choose to live somewhere where there is NO RULE OF LAW. If you were you would swiftly be begging for a blanket, a coke and a Big Mac. Libertarians are a joke- delusional intellectual teenagers who cannot point to any real world implementation of their delusional dogma because it is simply unworkable nonsense.
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Wow I thought I was the only one who held this position.
Libertarians like to play key board warrior with a full belly of food, on demand water and power, and “statist” internet services. They never stop and think why their internet bill isn’t $1,000. It’s because the price is regulated. Having 1,000s of ISPs to compete on getting to near zero cost for internet is ridiculous. The opportunity cost for such endeavors is massive.
They all are LARPing and why I don’t take them seriously.
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At least with Milei the exchange rate looks more like a staircase to Heaven, whereas in the past it looked like a rocket launched to the sky.
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28 sats \ 5 replies \ @ca 12 Jan
That's the artificial government imposed price control. Meaningless.
You need to look at the real market rate against the US Dollar.
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Sorry for my meaningless comment. Do you mean there is still a black market? I have never been in Argentina, but thought it was gone after Milei. That being said, I don't speak Spanish, not sure how to interpret this chart. Does it mean ARS exchange rate decreased by 40.1% against USD?
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @ca 12 Jan
The opposite. The peso strengthened against the dollar by +40% in a year.
There are multiple exchange rates imposed by the government. Before liberalising Milei has to fix the balance sheet. They've been accumulating US Dollars. If they removed the currency controls it would have bankrupted the treasury as they didn't have enough US Dollars.
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And what is the name of the exchange rate you used for measurement to say ARS has strengthened against USD by 40%? The blue one?
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @ca 13 Jan
Blue 👍
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I see, thank you. I took a look at this website: https://cuex.com/en/usd-ars_pa And indeed it is striking to see the difference, like a different currency. I didn't know.
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Argentina is being saved, the rest of South America will soon follow
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I confess that this post makes me see the current situation in Argentina from another perspective...
Although I still believe that socialism must be eradicated forever in that country...
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Since Milei took charge monthly inflation rates have seen a sharp decline from a peak of 25.5% in December 2023 to 2.7% by October of the following year, indicating a significant impact from Milei's policies aimed at curbing inflation. The Central Bank has cut its main policy rate by 98 percentage points, though at 35% it remains among the world's highest. This has led to a tripling of private-sector credit in annual terms by September, suggesting a boost in economic activity from the lower interest rates. However, annual inflation remains high, with rates over 200%, the highest in the world.
Elon's pet AI view (grok)
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18 sats \ 0 replies \ @oklar 12 Jan
I think there's a clear two sides to how I read the effectualness. In terms of economic and personal freedom, time will tell, and I guess it depends on things like the IMF leaning on nations to make changes which may or may not benefit national interests. Often not. Alternatives are that other power blocks lean on Argentina and exploit. I hope they find a way. It's hard to stay independent but a worthwhile endeavor. I've no idea whether the collective will can do it in Argentina, I hope there is.
From the thread, the facts are:
  • A sharp increase on M0 money supply and M1, M2, M3 all continued to incease
  • As of recent years, Argentina has a government spending deficit, but nowhere near as extreme as previous years
  • Peso/USD exchange rate has declined (this is inline with most economies) apart from those that artificially peg their currencies to the Dollar
  • Real market rates have seen a meaningful increase in exchange rate (BIS figures)
@DarthCoin What did Argentina do with it's gold holdings exactly? Did it lease it out or sell it off?
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As always, actions speak louder than words.
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