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Serious question.
It has been called dead so many times, but I am beginning to think that due to the network effect, vested interests, switching costs to adopting a new thing and the strong trend of adoption, it would take a black swan event to take it down.
It's important to define failure and success here. I know it stands for a lot more than that, but for the purposes of this discussion (to keep it streamlined):
  • I define success as increasing value (price) and not losing too much
  • I define failure as a major sustained loss of value.
For example, it going from $100k to $10k in the next year, then staying around that range for 3-4 years, and continuing a downtrend.
Well, I'm sorry but you're dealing with some shit here.
Bitcoin shouldn't be compared to fiat like this.
Let me ask you a question for question. What will it take dollar to fail?
I think it's easier to answer my question because it has answers.
But your question has no answers because it isn't going to happen.
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Let me ask you a question for question. What will it take dollar to fail?
It already lost 99% it's purchasing power. Dollar already has failed.
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Darth will have a field day with this one!
imo, the network effects of btc are too entrenched for it to fail now
the only way bitcoin loses relevance, not just in fiat numbers, but in network effects and 'fails' is if governments all of a sudden become solvent and go on a hard money standard and stop printing money and being fucking shit.
The chance of that happening is 0%
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if governments all of a sudden become solvent and go on a hard money standard and stop printing money and being fucking shit.
So, you will sell your sats as soon as your gov says they've stopped priting money?
Please do sell. I will be there, waiting to straw suck your sats.
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I think there's a good chance that, at this point, if Bitcoin fails, it will not be the only thing to fail.
Think EMP shockwaves that bring down all electronics or meteor hitting earth. Accessing sats would be low on our list of priorities. As would accessing fiat.
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meteor hitting earth.
Such an amazing argument!!! Thank!
I will now sell all my BTC, just in case a meteor hits earth πŸ‘πŸ’ͺ
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Its an argument people do bring up more often than you'd think lol.
"What if they shut down the internet!" "What if theres nuclear WW3?"
Yeah, what if those happen, what happens to your stonks and your bonds and treasuries?
You'll be out in roaming gangs of scavengers trying to survive just like me
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My Roth IRA is nuclear proof, at least that's what Fidelity told me, they wouldn't lie to me right?
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If they did a pinky swear, it's illegal to lie
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Calling my lawyer
I have a strong case
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πŸ˜†πŸ€£πŸ˜‚
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  • I define success as increasing value (price) and not losing too much
  • I define failure as a major sustained loss of value.
Your definition of success/failure is very lame. Regardless of price bitcoin has been running with 100% uptime. Tick, tock. Next block.
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Screw your definition of success. That's a NGU speculators definition. It's not what Bitcoin was created to do...if anything the treatment of Bitcoin as a speculative commodity is driving its downfall.
Read the Whitepaper.
Has it succeeded as a P2P payments protocol? No.
But to answer your narrowly defined question- if Bitcoin remains as primarily a speculative commodity asset where everyone is just seeking fiat denominated gain it is almost certain to fail at some point. Already institutions (mainly Coinbase) have gained custody of over 10% of all Bitcoin and that Bitcoin cannot be used as a P2p payments protocol.
What you need to understand is Bitcoins value is based upon its ability (or lack of) to provide an alternative to the fiat monetary hegemony over MoE/payments.
Look at SWIFT and how important it is to US imperialism- Bitcoin was created to provide an alternative but has been cleverly and slyly prevented from becoming a vehicle for payments while being allowed as a speculative commodity is leading to ever increasing institutional capture and control.
If you still dont get it watch this-
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A fork that lose its philosophical principles. I can see this possible with BlackRock choosing a fork.
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You can go ahead and use the Blackrock cuck fork. Me and the boys will remain on THE Bitcoin.
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What happens after that? Does the market decide which fork is the 'real' Bitcoin like in 2017?
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The 'real' Bitcoin is/will always be the one that doesn't change.
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Interesting.
What about when bitcoin has to hard fork because of Unix timestamp overflow?
What about the hard fork that fixed the value overflow incident?
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I knew you would bring that up πŸ™„
Overflows fixes have nothing to do with Blackrock increasing the maxsupply, the blocksize and shit like that.
Stop baiting.
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Realize that your understanding of bitcoin is myopic.
The 'real' Bitcoin is/will always be the one that doesn't change.
I'm not baiting you, you're just wrong. Bitcoin has changed and will change again.
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Don't tell me, tell your friends choosing ETF than self-custody
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Monero dumbfuck? Did i got it right? I almost never fail
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You are right it promises privacy and anonymity as intented
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Whenever i see an user shittalking Bitcoin on Bitcoin-related platforms, he is always a Monero shill, always
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You were the one who mention "Monero dumbfuck". I still degen BTC though
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Trust would need to be lost. Don’t see that happening if it did a fork would occur and trust regained. We are too big to fail at this point!
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I hope this fall never happens, bitcoin has been the digital treasure that today we have to mine as good miners and considering the value it has, it would be more than sad if it fell in this unbridled fall of its value. or that it stays or rises is an achievement, not only for the big companies but also for the users of the ecosystem. there is responsibility in everyone and for everyone a benefit. Thanks for sharing, sats to all
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ai gibberish shitcoiner
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