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What is your favorite type of game to play?
1261 sats \ 38 comments \ @WhichGame 27 Dec 2024 gaming
GAME A - some players don't know the rules at all, some know the rules well, some may CHANGE the rules
Examples - fiat, shitcoins, "trickle down" "economics", pyramid schemes - the status-quo
GAME B - a fixed rule set where ALL players may learn ALL the rules and MUST play by them
Examples - Bitcoin and nostr - the alternatives
Which one do you prefer? GAME A or GAME B
Or is there a third type of game? Share your favorite type of games down below.
I want to hear from some of the major players
@grayruby @Undisciplined @siggy47 @DarthCoin @DavidoftheDesert @OT @Bell_curve @Public_N_M_E
Extra credit👇
What about this game WE are playing NOW?
Do you think the developers of this game will update rapidly and make a dream version of stacker news, an alternative, a reality?
Or is stacker news doomed to fail and get rugged in time?
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Game A0.0%
Game B80.0%
Game C20.0%
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111 sats \ 3 replies \ @OT 27 Dec 2024
I'll take "major player" as a compliment. lol
I'll go with game B as if everyone knows the rules, we can all play the same game and are basicaly all on a level playing field.
I might add that in Bitcoin we've seen recently that some or the rules have been bent a little or they've found little hacks here and there (BRC-20 tokens and inscriptions). I also saw recently that someone was able to do an op_cat transaction too. It got into a block so it's a 'valid' transaction but not everyone will agree with that.
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98 sats \ 2 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
I'll take "major player" as a compliment.
I looked at the leaderboard and found your name closer to the top. And I have seen you around and active. Many top stackers like to be hidden.
I agree that type B is preferred. And maybe never fully perfected. Bitcoin seems to be the closest thing we have to a pure game.
In your opinion, which type of game is this version of stacker news, as it is now?
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111 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 27 Dec 2024
I think SN is still evolving. The rules change slightly every now and then but the main ones seem to remain consistent.
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
The devil is in the details. The fact that the rules need to be changed ever is a problem. The fact that the developers have to "nerf" themselves. It's no good. Play it out. Men are only men.
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111 sats \ 30 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Dec 2024
Stacker News is open source. Everyone is free to spin up their own "better" version and show us how wrong we are.
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50 sats \ 29 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
This is great news. Is anyone working on a version where the creator doesn't have to "nerf" themselves to make the game "more fair"?
And I am curious, you said "we". Do you help make the rules on this particular stacker news game?
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11 sats \ 28 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Dec 2024
I'm not claiming to be part of the rules committee, but I do think this rule set is very elegantly designed. Therefor, I would be included in the "we" that are wrong about it.
There's nothing unfair, in my opinion, about k00b or ek earning large rewards. They do the most work and add the most value, on most days. I can see why it might be bad optics for the people who operate the site to be earning the most rewards, though.
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35 sats \ 27 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
Is there a rules committee?
I think it's worse than bad optics.
Play it out. What happens if stacker scales, as it is?
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11 sats \ 26 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Dec 2024
Is there a rules committee?
Not that I know of, but then again, I'm not sure I would know about it.
Play it out. What happens if stacker scales, as it is?
I don't see a problem. What problem do you see?
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41 sats \ 17 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
Right now it is easy for SOME to to game the board, and VERY easy for a very FEW.
The earlier you are to the game, the easier it is. Sound familiar?
Eventually, it will be very difficult, for MOST to make the rewards board. It will still be easy for FEW.
While MOST send zaps around like they are nothing, hoping for sweet sweet rewards, they will get less and less as time goes on.
FEWER than few, know the true value of sats, and they will choose to play elsewhere.
Sats are valuable. Way more valuable than the way we play with them here, right now.
When the game goes boom, a few walk away, fat and happy. Most will lose their sats and even their "cowboy credits"
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100 sats \ 16 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Dec 2024
That just reads like catastrophizing based on a lack of understanding about how this system actually works.
The rewards pool scales with usage and people earn more rewards for doing more positive stuff on the site. If some positive activity is currently underrepresented in the rewards, it's easy enough to tweak the formula.
In my mind, the people who leave rewards on the table are the ones who don't appreciate the value of their sats. Most stackers can earn more rewards by zapping larger amounts to the creators of content they value. That means they aren't valuing their own sats or other people's work highly enough.
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41 sats \ 15 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
That just reads like catastrophizing based on a lack of understanding about how this system actually works
Time will tell.
If I am still here, the game has changed. @remindme in 3 years
A perfect GAME B never needs to be "tweaked" and maybe nothing is perfect, but...
a committee of 2?
Search deep inside of yourself and you will find the truth.
Or don't. Up to you.
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11 sats \ 7 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
Not that I know of, but then again, I'm not sure I would know about it.
Sound familiar?
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100 sats \ 6 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Dec 2024
No. Also, I'm joking. There are only two regular employees of SN. They don't have any committees.
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42 sats \ 5 replies \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
How do you know how many "stackers" or players, are also builders or sock puppets of builders?
Have you considered the information the builders get access to, that other players do not?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @alt 27 Dec 2024
I chose game C, although on closer reading of the question I believe this still falls under your definition of game B.
It's the game where the rules are fixed, and everybody must play by them, but there is no requirement for the players to learn the rules or to even understand that a game is being played.
I was thinking of Bitcoin, where it's likely that most people in the future will not know that their money is run on a distributed ledger, they won't know anything about how it work (as they don't know anything about how fiat works), but nonetheless they will abide by the rules.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @WhichGame OP 27 Dec 2024
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @alt 28 Dec 2024
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