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44 sats \ 14 replies \ @Bell_curve 23 Dec \ on: How to Lose a Fortune with Just One Bad Click security
45 BTC???
WTF
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Griffin said that after receiving the pop-up prompt from Google on his phone, he felt more at ease that he really was talking to someone at Google. In reality, the thieves caused the alert to appear on his phone merely by stepping through Google’s account recovery process for Griffin’s Gmail address.
“As soon as I clicked yes, I gave them access to my Gmail, which was synched to Google Photos,” Griffin said.
Unfortunately for Griffin, years ago he used Google Photos to store an image of the secret seed phrase that was protecting his cryptocurrency wallet. Armed with that phrase, the phishers could drain all of his funds.
“From there they were able to transfer approximately $450,000 out of my Exodus wallet,” Griffin recalled.
He was buying in early 2013 but was made to believe his Trezor was compromised.
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from article:
Just days after Griffin was robbed, a scammer impersonating Google managed to phish 45 bitcoins — approximately $4,725,000 at today’s value — from Tony, a 42-year-old professional from northern California. Tony agreed to speak about his harrowing experience on condition that his last name not be used.
Tony got into bitcoin back in 2013 and has been investing in it ever since. On the evening of May 15, 2024, Tony was putting his three- and one-year-old boys to bed when he received a message from Google about an account security issue, followed by a phone call from a “Daniel Alexander” at Google who said his account was compromised by hackers.
Tony said he had just signed up for Google’s Gemini AI (an artificial intelligence platform formerly known as “Bard”), and mistakenly believed the call was part of that service. Daniel told Tony his account was being accessed by someone in Frankfurt, Germany, and that he could evict the hacker and recover access to the account by clicking “yes” to the prompt that Google was going to send to his phone.
The Google prompt arrived seconds later. And to his everlasting regret, Tony clicked the “Yes, it’s me” button.
Then came another call, this one allegedly from security personnel at Trezor, a company that makes encrypted hardware devices made to store cryptocurrency seed phrases securely offline. The caller said someone had submitted a request to Trezor to close his account, and they forwarded Tony a message sent from his Gmail account that included his name, Social Security number, date of birth, address, phone number and email address.
Tony said he began to believe then that his Trezor account truly was compromised. The caller convinced him to “recover” his account by entering his cryptocurrency seed phrase at a phishing website (verify-trezor[.]io) that mimicked the official Trezor website.
“At this point I go into fight or flight mode,” Tony recalled. “I’ve got my kids crying, my wife is like what the heck is going on? My brain went haywire. I put my seed phrase into a phishing site, and that was it.”
Almost immediately, all of the funds he was planning to save for retirement and for his children’s college fund were drained from his account.
“I made mistakes due to being so busy and not thinking correctly,” Tony told KrebsOnSecurity. “I had gotten so far away from the security protocols in bitcoin as life had changed so much since having kids.”
Tony said the theft left him traumatized and angry for months.
“All I was thinking about was protecting my boys and it ended up costing me everything,” he said. “Needless to say I’m devastated and have had to do serious therapy to get through it.”
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"Then came another call, this one allegedly from security personnel at Trezor, a company that makes encrypted hardware devices made to store cryptocurrency seed phrases securely offline. The caller said someone had submitted a request to Trezor to close his account, and they forwarded Tony a message..."
"Close his account". This is not how blockchains work. How does someone in Bitcoin for 12-13 years not know this? It would be explained in the Trezor 'beginners' education section. ???
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He should also have multiple wallets to eliminate single point of failure
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I know Darth has some thoughts on this
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Hardware vault
Lightning wallet
Third wallet for opening lightning channels etc
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from the article:
“It’s interesting because copyright infringement really is an act that you’re claiming against the publisher, but for some reason these companies have taken a very hard line against it, so if you even claim there’s copyrighted material in it they just take it down and then they leave it to you to prove that you’re innocent,” Junseth said. “In Soundcloud’s instance, part of declaring your innocence is you have to give them your home address and everything else, and it says right on there, ‘this will be provided to the person making the copyright claim.'”
(This part is really important: Google Authenticator cloud settings)
When Junseth asked how potential victims could protect themselves, Daniel explained that if the target doesn’t have their Google Authenticator synced to their Google cloud account, the scammers can’t easily pivot into the victim’s accounts at cryptocurrency exchanges, as they did with Griffin.
By default, Google Authenticator syncs all one-time codes with a Gmail user’s account, meaning if someone gains access to your Google account, they can then access all of the one-time codes handed out by your Google Authenticator app.
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One lesson is that 10 hot wallets are more secure than one hardware wallet.
Eliminate single point of failure
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I disagree.
No hot wallet, or cold wallet for that matter, will stop thieves if the victim literally, voluntarily gives out a seed phrase over the phone.
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He should have at least 3 different hardware wallets or desktop wallets
Or run a node
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Those things not mutually exclusive.
I know some people like multi-signature. At least that way he couldn't give out a seed phrase if drunk/tired/lack of judgement etc. For those amount of sats seems worth it imo
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Agree about multi signature
You’re right: he can do all of the above
Edit:
If you only have one wallet then multi signature is the best option
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