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A Local Establishment

I have been going to the same barber shop for more than twenty five years. I went to get a haircut there before my wedding. I know the owners pretty well by now. It's an old fashioned, men only place, though once in a while a mother will bring her young son in to micromanage his pre- k hairstyle. It's the kind of old school business that offers you a shot of whiskey around the holidays.

You're Not Going Out Like That, Are You?

My wife and daughter convinced me that I needed to pay them a visit before Christmas. Since the covid lockdowns, and since I no longer work every day, I start to look like a member of ZZ Top if I neglect my beard for too long.

They Like The U.S. Just Fine

The owners and workers are all Jewish immigrants from Odessa. Their politics are strictly Fox News aligned conservative. They believe in the American dream, the US dollar, and US real estate. They loathe anything that in any way reminds them of their communist past, and they are certainly not woke. I have never discussed bitcoin with them for privacy reasons.

Master Of The Universe

Today the shop was crowded with pre- holiday customers. There was a financial industry white collar type getting a shave, pontificating about investing. Among his proclamations: "You can always expect returns of 20-25 percent in the stock market. That's just how it is." I suspected I was listening to an idiot.
The caste system of this barbershop is roughly equivalent to that of the town. There is a wealthy area where all of the professionals live- doctors, lawyers, engineers, and finance guys. The rest of the town is blue collar. In the barbershop the loudmouth professionals usually hold court, while the blue collar guys always seem reluctant to express their opinion. The deference paid is class driven. We have plenty of dumb lawyers and really smart contractors around here.
The immigrant workers do not observe these rules, and they are never shy about expressing their opinions.

Let The Games Begin

One of the barbers asked the investment wizard about bitcoin. He snorted in response. "It isn't backed by anything financial. Pure speculation. Gambling. I wouldn't go near it." The barber mentions Trump's support.
Mr. Wall Street must have been a democrat. He didn't seem to like the president elect: "Trump! He's a whore. He just likes it because he knows the idiots who voted for him like it."

Soon Lambo!

That's when things got a little ugly. All the barbers are Trump supporters. It sounded like most of the people waiting for a haircut were too. Now everyone was telling stories about the profits they had recently made in bitcoin. Unfortunately, the talk was all about coinbase, microstrategy, and ETFs. Number go up.
I sat there and listened. I was surprised to learn that so many people in that room had recently bought bitcoin, but it seemed all about short term profits.

What Does This Mean?

Was this a good thing? Is there really no such thing as bad publicity? I don't know. Maybe everyone needs to go through an NGU phase before they discover the revolution taking place while they count their dollars. I hope so.
Next time inform them about my arrival for a haircut... and you will see what happen.
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I thought you were bald... no trip there needed, ohh maybe a beard trim, I get it :-)
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ha ha ha.... they will notify you of your arrival via mobile, so be prepared that the barber will be paid in botcoins.
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41 sats \ 1 reply \ @bookguy 20 Dec
I don't do politics with those in charge of cutting my hair lol
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Good life rule
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Everyone gets into bitcoin for one reason or another. Once they get a taste of the short term profits, they might become a long term hodler. Who knows? But how were you able to control yourself and not talk about it?
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I wasn't even tempted. I knew I would start bad mouthing BlackRock and Saylor, and I didn't know if that would be counter productive
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I suspect, amongst the truly well indoctrinated, professionally educated crowd, you were/would have been right. If they, well and truly, absorbed all of their college indoctrination, they would have been throwing rotten tomatoes and rotten eggs at you, real quick. Blackrock has been donating to colleges for too long not to have the fatal pull that they have accumulated and perhaps Saylor, being the silver-tonged devil that he is, may have spoken at their college when they were there.
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You could have led the conversation towards long term profits? I wonder if they had a superficial knowledge of bitcoin, or if they have actually taken time to read about it. I feel many people are in it for the quick profit, not realizing how much they are hurting their future by selling so quickly.
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This was without a doubt a quick profit bunch.
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Unless someone can send and receive Bitcoin actual Bitcoin (at least once) they don't understand it at all imo.
Someone buying the ETF without having made a Bitcoin transaction has no fucking idea what they are buying imo.
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Most of them/us were at one point or another.
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You would think that the wall street guy would be more into quick profits. I always though jewish people were more careful with their money and invested more towards long term?
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The Wall Street guys make money by churning your portfolio! How did you think they made money, by buying low and holding or selling high and buying low? The brokers and people advising other people on how to invest make commissions on how much they buy and sell, not on how much money you make. It is a mook’s game if you are in it. You always have to look around the table for the chump. If you can’t readily figure out who the chump is, it is you.
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The Wall Street guy was probably Jewish too
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Why do you say that?
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Goldman is a Jewish name. Sachs is a Jewish name.
I’m spreading anti Semitism
Well it isn’t up to you to decide whether you saying something would be productive or backfire. Sometimes we need someone to plant ideas in our head even if we resist that new idea at that point in time - and you could be it haha.
But it must have a nice moment to witness. All these supposedly stupid working class people taking profits in Bitcoin, not resigned to their fate, believing in something other than the stocks narrative
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wise
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That was the first thought on my mind: I’m surprised you held back and kept quiet
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In my opinion... unless someone has the ability to send and receive Bitcoin reasonably without censorship...
They don't really hold Bitcoin. They hold a proxy-iou at best. Real Bitcoin is where someone holds they own keys and can send and receive to an address if they so choose.
Etfs are't actually Bitcoin at all as the users have zero ability to send and receive.
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NGU is the starting place for most people, more so now than before, it can lead to a gateway of further bitcoin understanding though.
when ngu the media starts talking about it more and more and eventually, people start asking themselves wtf it is. I hope the media keeps talking about it, as long as it seeps into peoples subconscious
some will end up all etf, some will go shitcoin mad, but some might end up the next darthcoin, blasting assmilkers on sn in a few years.
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Great story, a positive development and I need to visit this barber shop!
Customers can request a shave with a straight razor? I use a straight razor once a year as part of my annual men's health check up (self diagnosed of course)
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They also ask whether you want your neck cleaned with a straight razor. I say just a buzz, please. I remember my dad telling me that the old Italian barber wanted to slit Walter O'Malley's throat when he moved the Brooklyn Dodgers to Los Angeles. Then there was of course the Albert Anastasia killing, but they used a gun:
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His grandson Kevin was my classmate for 6 years. When I first met him I had no idea who his father and grandfather were.
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O'Malley or Anastasia?
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O'Malley but Anastasia would be more interesting (maybe)
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"There is no such thing as 'bad publicity' " people are talking, that's all it matters... :-) You can't orange pill them all (dang, you can try) , but if they ask, have at it... YMMV
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It's amazing to know that. USA (specifically NY) has a barber shop like we have everywhere in India.
I'd take this as a positive development. It's not long ago when people didn't have faith in Bitcoin's ability to make them rich. It's the part of process which I think most of us go through.
I'm a believer of easy things for the easier it is, the easier it'll be to adopt. If anything Coinbase, Microstrategy and ETFs doing is increasing the accessibility of Bitcoin. We've to accept that everyone won't learn what real Bitcoin means.
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If anything Coinbase, Microstrategy and ETFs doing is increasing the accessibility of Bitcoin
You are an idiot saying that. Those are not increasing anything but fiat use. But what should expect from a shitcoiner... pretending to be a bitcoiner and also pretending to be in... Indiana LOL
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43 sats \ 1 reply \ @jgbtc 19 Dec
The finance guy mentality is getting weird at this point. They've been saying that since it was worth a $1. Now it's a $100k how do they work that into their speculation/gambling model? Like are they really that lacking in intellectual curiosity where they can't consider that maybe they missed something? It's bizarre.
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I think it is their indoctrination talking. It goes deep and wide.
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It means that the are holding the binoculars the wrong way again! They are only seeing the fiat potentials not the reality of the situation. Once the turn the binoculars around they will see the true situation.
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Most people won't be here for the revolution. That's fine. Bitcoin is for them, too.
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what do you mean?
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I mean that bitcoin does many valuable things.
Some people will primarily value it as a great savings technology (even if they're thinking of it as a speculative vehicle), while some of us are here for the revolutionary effect it's going to have on the world.
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OK. This remind me of why I wrote this guide... about 5 stages. https://darth-coin.github.io/beginner/5-stages-became-bitcoiner-en.html
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I think many people will be perfectly happy staying on step one, but, as you note, that's the hardest step.
Most people aren't passionate about their principles. They just want to keep what they've earned.
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You could also say the fear motivates a lot of people to try to keep what they have and not lose it. However, they don’t fear enough, IMHO. It is the platforms, exchanges and FTXs of the world that are ripping them new ones. If they held it themselves they would do better with less fear, I think.
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They just want to keep what they've earned.
What they really earned if their mind is only fixated on fiat gains?
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Fair enough. I think of it as keeping what they've earned, because I think of bitcoin as money. They are probably thinking of it as a speculative investment, though, and therefore seeking gains.
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It looks like you may be right. They are still in the fiat set of mind.
self custody run a node use lightning and liquid
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I suspect the first two will always be unusual, but most people will use L2's for daily transactions.
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I think we went through this a week or so ago, BTC has both SOV and MOE properties. It is useful in many ways besides making a profit, in terms of fiat.
I notice that it is also a great ego booster for those that had the foresight to get in early.
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It's hard to put a price on the smug sense of self satisfaction.
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Yes, I guess it is priceless! Just wish I had that feeling.
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one million dollars!
Early is relative, no?
Many folks here are 'early' and and are 'in profit' - 'deep in the green' as the traders say.
The problem of course is... what do you trade out to? Paper money? Why? That would be nuts.
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Commodity traders usually say, “Deep in the money.” Not green. You trade out to goods and services by using BTC as MoE.
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I agree. BTC directly to goods and services.
BTC exchanged for paper money... to spend on goods and services is a scam in most cases in my opinion.
Having said that, the etfs do not allow for spending on 'goods and services' not really. And people need more education before they are ready/educated enough to spend on goods and services. A large number of people (strangely) think Bitcoin is a scam, a 'crypto' thing they don't understand you can actually send and receive bitcoin.
Early is before most people get in, because most people will get in eventually.
You trade for goods and services that you use. That's the entire point of money.
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People don't see it that way. Especially if they use ETFs.
They trade out to... dollars and paper money. Trading for goods and services requires sending and receiving to addresses, or at least the remedial use of lightning.
Which ETF users don't actually know exist.
On top of that, most government policy disincentivizes spending directly on goods and services... because that would remove the need for fiat to begin with.
Today total Bitcoin adoption is something like... 1%? maybe much, much less? Are we 'early'?
By that time, BTC will be for everybody not willing to be skinned alive.
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I would have said in a loud voice, "I don't think any of you even know what bitcoin is", and then proceed to educate the room
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I fantasized about doing just that. In the moment I didn't have the nerve.
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hold your horses...
I will always remind you this meme, please keep it into your deep mind
later you will see why...
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That’s raw!! Tell them to buy gold coins instead. Really raw!
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That's how you move their attention (clueless shitcoiners) from what really matter: Bitcoin. We are in the last lap of the race: who gets more sats.... very few people realize that.
btw... all my memes have a double meaning. I wonder how many stackers really understand them.
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Well, I can tell you truthfully, I don’t always understand all the different meanings of all of your memes. My head is somewhat thick.
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Got this one, I think! Looks like applecarts.
Interesting perspective. You might be on to something. I can't lie and say that was what I was thinking. I didn't want to be misunderstood and inadvertently help the pompous ass.
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choose wisely your padawans ....
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Anyone new to Bitcoin will be in it for NGU. It is just reality. That's why we will see another bear market and the cycle persist at least for a while longer. (although it might be a weaker bear compared to the previous ones, I don't expect an 80% drawdown)
New people get in, get caught up in the hype, don't know what they own and then get scared and sell or they stick around and learn.
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104 sats \ 6 replies \ @jasonb 19 Dec
At the risk of coming off as a total tool, I was in it for ideological reasons from the start. Have to admit that I’ve gone through multiple NGU phases since then, not to mention the initial shitcoin phase. But even when I was into shitcoins (for most of the time), I just didn’t realize what they really were.
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I don't mean to suggest that no one gets into Bitcoin for ideological reasons but I think the majority of folks are initially attracted to ngu.
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no one gets into Bitcoin for ideological reasons
I am the exception :) I got into Bitcoin for one thing only: FUCK THE GOVS AND THE BANKSTERS.
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You didn’t quote my full sentence. I prefaced it by saying I don’t mean to suggest.
Yes, we know you are in it for the right reasons.
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You are ... different ... and special
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Yeah, fair enough.
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Barber shop patrons tend to be less ideological lol
You must go to a fancy salon!
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You also have to look for the people that were and maybe are into silver and gold. They are there for the same reasons as we are into BTC, but they just don’t trust BTC any more than they trust fiat. They are good prospects to become BTC people.
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Yeah. I agree. I guess every cycle there is a certain percentage who actually stick around and put in the time to learn.
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when 58k ? 😂😂😂 I wish will go even to 10k or 1k so will wash away all the opportunists and fiat maxis.
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