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[pod 10:02] @realBitcoinDog It's So Early! - Low Time Preference Potty Training

It's so early!

I'm your host, Will Schoellkopf, author of The Bitcoin Dog: Following the Scent to the Bitcoin C++ Source Code, and Bitcoin Girl Save the World. Parents' Corner has taken over again this It's So Early episode, and it's too early that I'm already having to potty train my two-year-old daughter, Paige. My wife has recommended that I read the book, Oh Crap! Potty Training, at least as one example of a method to potty train your toddler. I have to say, I'm grateful for Bitcoin because I can just call anything low-time preference, low-time preference thinking,

low-time preference potty training

So, what the author recommends for how to potty train is, and this is the impossible part, block off at least three days where I'm completely away from stacker news. No stacker news. No phone. No going outside. This is it. My wife and I are home with our daughter, and she is buck naked. That's right. Having my toddler completely naked, running around in the house. EGAD! I am definitely afraid of accidents on the floor, but this is a skill. This is a learned skill, potty training. The author advocates that there's

four stages

that a toddler goes through. They have to go from completely clueless that they're peeing, and what does clueless look like? Clueless is so clueless you're peeing and walking and you slip on your own pee. That's clueless. The next is, I'm peeing, like realizing that they're in the act of peeing, feeling the pee trickle down their leg, like they have that realization. Then I peed, the realization that they have already peed. The pee is done. And then finally, I need to pee, which is the absolute hardest, something the author calls self-initiation. So what the author advocates is having a whole day, that hard day, a super difficult day. Tell my daughter this day when she's 12 years old, 10 years from now, the day that my wife and I were home and she was naked and we played with her all day in the house. And what were we looking for was to find out her

pee cues

You see, that's the thing with a warm, dry, snuggly diaper pressed against you. You don't even think twice about peeing. You think nothing of it. You're in the middle of your day, your time, whatever, you're peeing. And we don't know, we're not watching our daughter constantly, so we don't have a sense of her

pee dance

What is her pee dance? Does she all of a sudden waddle with her feet? Does she clap her hands? Does she turn her neck slightly? Does she make a face when she pees? Does she squint her eyes? Does her toes, does she cross her toes? What does she do as the pee dance that she's about to pee? And all kids have a pee dance. Now, the author advocates for some kids, even if you're watching the whole time, the whole time, you're not leaving to go to the restroom. You're not leaving to go cook in the kitchen. You're not taking your eyes off your kid at all. Even if you feel like you can't see any indicators of your child's pee dance, then there is at least learning their

pee pattern

Are they kind of a camel? Do they hold the pee naturally for a long time? Or is it after you give them a four-ounce glass of milk, they're likely to have dribbles of pee every 15 minutes for the next hour? What is their pattern? This is what the author advocates. So as soon as you catch them in the act of about to pee, you whisk them away to the bathroom to have them pee on the potty. See, that is the thing that, I mean, how can you not laugh listening to this?

We are not teaching our kids how to pee.

They know how to pee. They pee on their own. We're teaching them where to put the pee. Where does the pee go? Pee goes in the potty. And the author's research says it doesn't make a difference if we use a portable potty, which I'm really curious to see what one of these containers looks like. But whether it's a portable potty so they can pee right there in the living room, or the actual potty in the bathroom, it doesn't affect the toddler's potty training development either way. What matters most, of course, is just that you are making sure that the pee goes in the potty. And later, you can pour the pee from the potty into the actual toilet. But from her research, that's not an effective technique or something. So that's day one, the absolute hardest day.

Day two

would then be the toddler is wearing clothes, but no diaper, no underwear, going commando, as they call it. So that way, but you're studied, you're still obsessing over your toddler, you're still not looking at Stacker News, and you're watching to see what are their pee cues, and you whisk them away, and your toddler is a toddler now. So you've got the very loose, elastic waist pants, or if you have a girl wearing a dress, go commando, nothing under the dress, so that the toddler can very quickly go to the toilet, and then pee there on the toilet. You only have a five to 10 second warning at that point from your cue to when the pee comes, and you're looking for success. The name of the game is success with the clothes. So it's very interesting to me. I've learned that nighttime training,

nap training is totally different.

For the kids, they understand they wear a diaper to sleep. They can appreciate that difference. There's no pressure on that, especially since our toddler goes to daycare. Daycare will absolutely have a diaper on her at naptime. So we don't need to stress over training her that, but she's ready. She's definitely ready. At over two years old, if she poops her diaper, she will already, if I'm not looking, see that she's pulled her pants down and pulled her diaper off. So she has an

open poop diaper just on the bathroom floor

which I definitely don't like. So if I don't potty train her, she's going to climb on the toilet for me. But it's all about the methods. What are the methods? What are the alternative methods? How did you potty train your child? An alternative method is to take the child to the potty every 30 minutes to say,

do you need to go pee?

Do you need to go pee? We're sitting on this potty. Do you need to go pee? I'm asking you, do you need to go? And that makes the child very nervous. They get very stage fright. Even worse is an M&M reward system. If you pee in the potty, I'll give you an M&M.

I'll give you an M&M if you pee in the potty.

So I can agree that I think that's a terrible idea. It should already be a natural reward, natural feeling sensation to urinating. There shouldn't need to be a candy reward for doing that. I would, of course, hate the opposite, that my child refuses to pee in the potty and on purpose does accidents unless I present them with an M&M. So I'm, of course, nervous about this. I'm, of course, nervous about having to clean up pee on the floor. The book has reassured me.

I will definitely have to clean up pee on the floor.

There definitely will be accidents, but I am setting up my child for that low time preference long-term success. Don't have an expectation that my child will be able to say when they need to go. Me watch my child. Me watch pee cues. Me prompt them gently in every natural transition before nap, after nap, before bed, upon wake up, before eating, after eating, before leaving the house, after leaving the house. But those are all just the basic general prompts that even I do myself as an adult. You know, am I gonna go somewhere? Let me make sure I relieve myself. The big thing the book emphasizes is put away the confetti.

No poppin' bottles or champagne.

This is just a socialized behavior. That's all it is. My kid already pees. My kid already poops. I'm just introducing them. If they're gonna be a part of society, a functioning member of society, they need to pee in the potty. And there's no special award for peeing in the potty. It's just a socialized behavior. And of course, with peeing in the potty, she will naturally consolidate her pees,

consolidate her Bitcoin UTXOs

not so much dribble, dribble, dribble, pee, not so much, dribble, 10-sat, 7-sat UTXO replies and comments. So. Oh crap! Is it time to potty train my toddler? How did you do it? Let me tell you, when I think my parenting journey is all done, absolutely not. It's so early!
Hey, you've almost had another wicket in the Round 2 of cricket. Did you make it there?
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Thank you @Undisciplined for being my FIRST supporter to stream me #Value4Value sats in support!!
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I say this with the utmost appreciation for you.
You are such a millennial.
You don't need a book or a ridiculous method where you daughter runs around naked and pees on the floor for a day. I can't believe someone is getting paid to give this advice.
If she is ready to potty train put her in pull ups. Take her to the potty every 30 minutes or so. No pressure. Read a book to her. Sing with her. Give her a few minutes if she pees she pees. If she doesn't try again in 30 minutes. If there is an accident in between, no big deal. Once she is used to going to sit on the potty you can extend the time she is on there and wait for a pee to come. She will figure it out. You don't see people walking the streets pissing themselves. Well it is LA so maybe you do, but she will figure it out.
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Ha! So did my pod make you laugh again??
I mean when you think about it, I spend a lot of time sitting on the pot too šŸ¤£
LA really is the greatest city!
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I did like your utxo consolidation analogy. For the most part I was shaking my head.
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Ha! Millennial parents these days
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Great episode.
That she's already bothered by poop in her diaper is the big thing, as I understand it. Until then, it's very difficult.
We tried a few different things and ultimately I concluded that it mostly just happens once the kid wants to do it. I'm sure with great effort you can speed it up by a few days, but the evidence on potty training isn't very compelling.
In keeping with your previous episode, since the method probably doesn't matter that much, you should just support whatever it is your wife wants to do.
Good luck!
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She suggested I read the book, so yea mission accomplished I guess! šŸ¤£
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