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53 sats \ 11 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 29 Nov \ on: Why do you eat meat? food_and_drinks
Killing and butchering an animal is a sobering experience.
There is a need for respect for all animals and sadly the way most meat is farmed today is not respectful.
I would go as far as to suggest that eating factory farmed mammals could be endangering your own health.
But fresh healthy best of all wild caught meat has to be a healthy part of any humans diet.
Try to support healthy farming systems and avoid overly exploitative ones if you can.
Best of all, if possible, farm and/or harvest from the wild.
I agree with your statement because it is aligned with what I think. However you should not respect animals if you eat them.
I kill mosquitos, I don't respect mosquitos. If I respected mosquitos I wouldn't kill them.
I think you should also kill dogs because they are animals. Hence saying they are human's best friends is very hypocrite (fortunately you eat dogs too since you eat meat, so you're not a hypocrite).
I like people in Africa because at least there is no hypocrisy. People can eat animals and humans and everyone is happy. Sometimes a war can happen but this is good for demographics.
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It is entirely possible without hypocrisy to respect an animal while farming it or hunting it and killing it and then eating it.
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Do Russian people respect Ukrainians when they kill them?
How the act of killing can be a form of respect?
Please note, farming is ok, hunting is ok and killing is ok. What I disagree with is the relation between killing and respect.
I can understand that killing might be ok if someone is suffering. However I am pro-life so I would still be against killing even if someone suffers. I would then rather be in favor of medical treatment.
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When you kill an animal you can respect it if you have hunted it fairly or farmed it with care and you give thanks to it for its life.
Us humans are a murderous species and almost unique in the extent to which we kill each other- not sure if you can respect human opponents you kill in war- perhaps in some cases- perhaps not in other cases. I hope I never have to.
Have heard some cases reported where the victors kill and eat the vanquished and that eating them is seen as an act of respect....
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I will reply with humor.
- you can respect animals by killing them,
- You can respect Iraqis by killing them to bring them Democracy,
- You can respect and save people from terrorism in Afghanistan by killing random people (families, kids, journalists, etc).
- You can respect women by killing foetuses (in this case, killing is not only respect, it is a right).
Some people say that killing is a lack of respect. I would reply that death is life, war is peace, heil to the Victor.
Let me end the joke here. I think I am more optimistic about mankind than you, as I don't think that we are murderous species. I have never killed animals or humans, so I am a counter example to your statement.
That being said I agree people can act in a barbarian way. I am not gay and I think homosexuality is a psychological problem but it surprises me that we can lynch and beat them in public and take pleasure to look at it. Or also kill animals and still have pet animals, for me it is a paradox. In that sense I prefer canibals, I think they are more honest. But I respect everyone so happy hunting.
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Your position on the global resource hegemony chain is definitely derived from murder/war.
Whatever nation state you live under it has been either victorious or vanquished by competing nation states and this generally involved killing of 'enemy combatants'.
Rather than making flippant jokes I am being serious as this is a serious matter.
Humans are demonstrably one of the most violent toward other members of their species.
Yes life is competition for resources and that often involves taking the life of others for food or territory- or both.
I agree gay people do not deserve to be lynched or beaten but again that is a fairly typical expression of human tribal behaviour where members of a group will happily scapegoat/punish/ostracise anyone that can be identified as different in order to strengthen their own insecure position within the group.
This exact witch hunt type behavior has been observed by yours truly in SN in my time here and seems to go almost unobserved by the majority who would not dare side with the one being cancelled....
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Sorry if you didn't appreciate the "joke". I should have called it black humor instead but sorry anyway if you felt it was not appropriate.
About the tribal behavior I agree, however similarly with the act of killing I think this is something we can avoid. At least I try to. I must confess when I was a kid I have beaten someone with the influence of the group, but I regretted it afterwards. In the Bitcoin community I try to avoid being pro-Coinkite or other respected companies to avoid following the group (I rather try DIY versions of wallets and show it to friends for example).
Just curious, what kind of witch hunt did you have a problem with on SN? I didn't observe this kind of group behavior on posts I participated, except for posts related to hardware wallets (everyone is always pro-Coldcard).
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IMO always better to learn how to build your own cold storage rather than be reliant upon third party HWs.
Use a usb Linux OS that never goes online for your cold wallet.
The witch hunt behaviour is something we can be vigilant to as it is easily overlooked...pointing out examples would not help you be more vigilant.