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Conferences aren’t a money-making venture apparently.
You can’t buy Bitcoin with cash anywhere at the conferences.
People queuing for absolutely everything like sheep... Lining up for food, coffee, the cloakroom, the toilets —basically like any fiat-conference, but worse. The queues are longer because everyone’s fumbling with Bitcoin payments, trying to figure out if their wallet or ring, or NFC card works or if they’ve got enough sats or their "node is up". Please, make it just work instead of holding everyone up!
Lightning payments do work, but they’re slow and a bit of a faff for most.
When free food arrives (in some conference they do that), all of a sudden, half the surrounding area is a "bitcoiner", to disappear a few minutes after lunch.
The staff at these conferences? Clueless about Bitcoin. Some even just laugh at the attendees or give them funny looks.
Some people are only at these events to stand around looking cool. Proper posers.
Women at these conferences? They’re either off-the-wall bonkers/psycho and impossible to hold a conversation with for more than two minutes, or they’re there to strut around like it’s a fashion show—usually tagging along with a Bitcoiner.
The art on display? It’s either depicting a famous quote, a drawing of a whale, a book, a big Bitcoin logo, or some sensual woman in a painting looking funky. Funny thing is, there are more women in the artworks than actual women at the events.
The artists? Most just copy each other’s ideas. There’s very little originality unless you stumble upon the rare clever piece or constructs.
As for the art sellers, there are two types: the hobbyists and the hardcore pros. The hobbyists will talk to anyone that gives them any attention at length, and ignore actual buyers asking about their work! Seen this many times. It’s ridiculous —imagine trying to sell something for over $10k and blanking someone ready to buy it! The pros, on the other hand, have zero patience left. They’re like car salesmen who’ve had enough of Bitcoin chat and just want to get money asap. No joy, the talk is usually perfunctory, unfortunately no passion is left with many (I understand that, but it's apparent).
The speakers? Some are natural entertainers who could make anything sound interesting, but most are just bland—nothing special about their content or delivery.
The referral link or exchange promoters (like Relai people and some others) are annoying as hell. They’ve got a bit of a hippie-communist vibe, and some smell like they’ve bathed in weed, booze, or worse. People handing out promo stuff in a desperate way comes across as very scammy to me.
A surprising number of attendees get in for free, courtesy of companies or organizations. Makes you feel a bit daft for paying when you see so many just strolling in without a ticket, without doing much in the space anyway.
The town or city hosting the conference really matters. It can make or break the experience. (Madeira was top on that)
Everyone wants to sell, but they also expect you to "sell something". I got the question myself "so what do you sell?"
Interactions with other Bitcoiners are never middling. It’s either fantastic or a complete disaster. I’ve met some truly awful people and some absolutely brilliant ones. No one in between.
The presentations? Maybe 20% are genuinely interesting. The rest is filler or things I’ve heard before. Also there, the passion is often gone.
Merchandise? Barely sells, and it’s usually just the same old Bitcoin “B”-themed stuff or some mildly clever stuff.
Multi-day conferences are mostly good for the socializing, but after a while, you’ve heard all the stories and insights.
Honestly, who ever pays to attend one of these conferences as a new user? Then learns about Bitcoin over there and leaves with a better understanding or motivation to adopt it? That’s the exception, not the rule I presume. Most conferences feel like a Bitcoin echo chamber—insiders clapping for themselves. Hardly welcoming for outsiders.
I wouldn’t bring any fiat-minded mates to one of these.
The parties are fun.
Always get all your gear (laptop, photo camera, lens, smartphones...) in a backpack and wear it on you or with you at ALL TIMES. There are some pretty shady figures roaming around, things get lost or stolen as I heard.
The amount of money you spent on tickets / airfare / transportation / food and drinks / lodging is not really holding up over a longer period of time. In my personal opinion: anyone attending a bitcoin conference as a paying attendee is NGMI. (unless they spent and refill their bitcoin)
Which conferences did you attend?
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'People queuing for absolutely everything like sheep'
It's not Md Max bro, lining up to purchase things is just normal social decorum. Cutting lines or taking the piss doesn't mean you have exited the Matrix
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @sime 26 Nov
People swapping fiat for Bitcoin using Vexl at BTCPrague: vexl.it
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vexl.it not working (download button doesn't do anything)
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harsh, indeed.
But I have seen a lot of these same things, so I can't say you're entirely wrong (or at all).
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52 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 26 Nov
Did you also go to conferences which focus on development like bitcoin++? The vibe there is very different compared to the ones organized by Bitcoin Magazine for example (which are more like what you described).
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not yet - thx for the tip
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So you would not recommend to go Bitcoin conferences organized by Bitcoin Magazine? How was your overall experience? I have just watched recordings but the 2019 conference seemed better to me, compared to the conference of this year with Trump.
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1 sat \ 2 replies \ @ek 26 Nov
You can’t buy Bitcoin with cash anywhere at the conferences.
Did you try asking people? Someone asked me on a conference and I sold him some for cash.
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yes, about a few times, asked around no atm either
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @ek 26 Nov
And nobody wanted to help you out or knew someone who would sell you some?
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No more conference for me, just local meetups.
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I would be interested to know which conference you went to. In my case it was more like show-casing a new application or new protocol. Sometimes it was really bad, like someone clearly interested in Ethereum which tries to port what he does to Bitcoin. Most of the time though, show-casing were ok, sometimes fun.
I have to admit though I didn't socialize or went to the parties as I have zero interest in this (just interested in Bitcoin), so can't talk about it.
And the stands in my case were good, plus zero people waiting for it.
I would agree though that for learning, rather than conferences, the book published by O'Reilly by Antonopoulos has been far more effective for me. Other books, articles or podcasts as well. So I totally agree that to learn about Bitcoin, it is better to do it alone. However to see what is happening with Bitcoin, some practical feeling about it, to try the Lightning network in the real world, to see what people interested in Bitcoin actually are, I think conferences are good. For the rest, I think meetups are a better way to learn new things.
Post scriptum : never been to American or European events so maybe this is the reason for my different experience.
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To resume even if you pay 2000 $ to attend a conference first of all the conference will teach you some basis and not teach you more than that, you need to be someone how spend 4 or 5 hours per day searching on the informations to reach your goal not from conferences. They help but just give you big lines.
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Or you have to listen politicians or Saylors LOL. I am not going to pay to see Saylor on the scene...
I always said: these conferences are a waste of money.
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