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Do we think Firefox will be here this time next year?

645 sats \ 15 comments \ @timappledotcom 23 Nov tech

What does everyone think Firefox's chance of survival are? As a standalone project with no $$ it won't be able to keep up with the likes of Chrome. Do you think a big player will take it up or replace the money Google fed Mozilla? https://rumble.com/v5s3js2-firefox-has-9-months-of-income-left-possibly-less.html

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65 sats \ 0 replies \ @Wumbo 23 Nov

The OP got me thinking, (Bitcoin can of course fix this)

Solution:

Streaming Sats to Mozillia for each page load (or some other metric) would be a good use case for BTC lighting.

But to my surprise Mozilla org doesn't accept bitcoin:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate_Bitcoin

These pages are painful to read. I would of thought the Mozillia crowd would have had a large overlap into bitcoin. But looks like I am wrong.

As of April 2022, the Mozilla Foundation is no longer accepting proof-of-work cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin. See: Foundation/Cryptocurrency_Donations for more details. The remainder of this page has some historical information for 2021 and earlier. If you have questions, contact us at donate @mozilla.org.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Foundation/Cryptocurrency_Donations

Over the course of Q2, our fundraising team has looked into implementing a policy that would see us only accept proof-of-stake cryptocurrencies. At this time, our vendor doesn’t offer a service that distinguishes between types of cryptocurrencies. Coupling that with the increased volatility, we’ve made the decision to continue to hold on accepting any cryptocurrencies until further notice.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE 23 Nov

I don't think Chrome will either be here

U.S. Proposes Breakup of Google (Sell Chrome or Android) to Fix Search Monopoly

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timappledotcom OP 23 Nov

I guess if both browsers are in a crap position without financial backing it's Safari for the win...lol

I think Chrome would have a better chance though with Microsoft, Brave, Vivaldi, and others all vested in it.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 23 Nov

Mozilla could still be here as it was in the IE6 era, but we need a solid foundation to start and avoid enshittification as it happened when Brendan Eich was resigned.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @wingalt 23h

Brave blew it by going the shitcoin route intead of streaming sats, joining the biggest growing network of the world (i.e., BTC) is the way to go for open source browser projects

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timappledotcom OP 23h

The shitcoin route really has not much to do with the browser at all. I've never used any of it and Brave is my daily driver.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Roll 24 Nov

Of course....

Moreover do not forget some firefox base as : -Mullvad Browser -Tor and so ... https://alternativeto.net/category/browsers/firefox-based/

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @drlh 23 Nov

If they optimise their spending mayybe they could survive. Mozilla have double budget of the linux foundation and they still seek to rise more money.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 23 Nov

Unless I'm missing something there's a confusing about the Mozilla foundation and Firefox itself as a project.

Firefox is going to be here. Mozilla has needed to adapt to reality. There's been some poor focus in my opinion.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sangekrypto 23 Nov

I don't think Mozilla will go bankrupt, because Mozilla itself is still widely used by the public, and to this day Mozilla still provides a means of synchronous storage of funds.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timappledotcom OP 23 Nov

The google money is 80% of their income, and that is most likely going away.. could be big trouble for them.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Imyourfed 23 Nov

Probably a big player will take over it. We are great full that Firefox is open source!

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @astro_penguin 23 Nov

Even if Mozilla goes under, it's an open source project. Someone else will take over the project or fork it.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @timappledotcom OP 23 Nov

I'm sure it will get forked, but if its a small team, it will not be able to keep up with Chrome. It won't stand a chance without a lot of $$$ behind it. So someone big would have to take it under their wing.. Microsoft or Meta, maybe a smaller company like System76 could wing trying to have it keep up... but it will take a lot of resources.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @daum3ns 23 Nov

The moment microsoft or meta take over firefox is provably the moment i would leave it after many many happy years... Or fork it😉 If, then it must be a company that has a FOSS spirit... Proton i could see here... Mullvad... Or then comunity forks...

If they would only realize that they could implement sat streaming... Which should be optional at the beginning of course (otherwise a lot of people leave) ... That was an idea already in 1998 but the ad industry won... It would be a nicer internet..

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-case-for-micropayments/