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Do we think Firefox will be here this time next year?

593 sats \ 12 comments \ @timappledotcom 10h tech

What does everyone think Firefox's chance of survival are? As a standalone project with no $$ it won't be able to keep up with the likes of Chrome. Do you think a big player will take it up or replace the money Google fed Mozilla? https://rumble.com/v5s3js2-firefox-has-9-months-of-income-left-possibly-less.html

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65 sats \ 0 replies \ @Wumbo 10h

The OP got me thinking, (Bitcoin can of course fix this)

Solution:

Streaming Sats to Mozillia for each page load (or some other metric) would be a good use case for BTC lighting.

But to my surprise Mozilla org doesn't accept bitcoin:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate_Bitcoin

These pages are painful to read. I would of thought the Mozillia crowd would have had a large overlap into bitcoin. But looks like I am wrong.

As of April 2022, the Mozilla Foundation is no longer accepting proof-of-work cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin. See: Foundation/Cryptocurrency_Donations for more details. The remainder of this page has some historical information for 2021 and earlier. If you have questions, contact us at donate @mozilla.org.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Foundation/Cryptocurrency_Donations

Over the course of Q2, our fundraising team has looked into implementing a policy that would see us only accept proof-of-stake cryptocurrencies. At this time, our vendor doesn’t offer a service that distinguishes between types of cryptocurrencies. Coupling that with the increased volatility, we’ve made the decision to continue to hold on accepting any cryptocurrencies until further notice.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 4h

Mozilla could still be here as it was in the IE6 era, but we need a solid foundation to start and avoid enshittification as it happened when Brendan Eich was resigned.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @drlh 2h

If they optimise their spending mayybe they could survive. Mozilla have double budget of the linux foundation and they still seek to rise more money.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE 4h

I don't think Chrome will either be here

U.S. Proposes Breakup of Google (Sell Chrome or Android) to Fix Search Monopoly

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timappledotcom OP 4h

I guess if both browsers are in a crap position without financial backing it's Safari for the win...lol

I think Chrome would have a better chance though with Microsoft, Brave, Vivaldi, and others all vested in it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 7h

Unless I'm missing something there's a confusing about the Mozilla foundation and Firefox itself as a project.

Firefox is going to be here. Mozilla has needed to adapt to reality. There's been some poor focus in my opinion.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sangekrypto 10h

I don't think Mozilla will go bankrupt, because Mozilla itself is still widely used by the public, and to this day Mozilla still provides a means of synchronous storage of funds.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timappledotcom OP 10h

The google money is 80% of their income, and that is most likely going away.. could be big trouble for them.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Imyourfed 10h

Probably a big player will take over it. We are great full that Firefox is open source!

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @astro_penguin 10h

Even if Mozilla goes under, it's an open source project. Someone else will take over the project or fork it.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @timappledotcom OP 10h

I'm sure it will get forked, but if its a small team, it will not be able to keep up with Chrome. It won't stand a chance without a lot of $$$ behind it. So someone big would have to take it under their wing.. Microsoft or Meta, maybe a smaller company like System76 could wing trying to have it keep up... but it will take a lot of resources.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @daum3ns 7h

The moment microsoft or meta take over firefox is provably the moment i would leave it after many many happy years... Or fork it😉 If, then it must be a company that has a FOSS spirit... Proton i could see here... Mullvad... Or then comunity forks...

If they would only realize that they could implement sat streaming... Which should be optional at the beginning of course (otherwise a lot of people leave) ... That was an idea already in 1998 but the ad industry won... It would be a nicer internet..

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-case-for-micropayments/