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Bitcoin isn't perfect, and it certainly requires planning and personal responsibility to self-custody. However if you load up a seed phrase with 10s of thousands of dollars and keep it under the mattress...
Your money won't disappear because "the bank failed." I feel for these people how stupid.
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"For 15 years, former Texas schoolteacher Kayla Morris put every dollar she could save into a home for her growing family.
When she and her husband sold the house last year, they stowed away the proceeds, $282,153.87, in what they thought of as a safe place — an account at the savings startup Yotta held at a real bank.
Morris, like thousands of other customers, was snared in the collapse of a behind-the-scenes fintech firm called Synapse and has been locked out of her account for six months as of November. She held out hope that her money was still secure. Then she learned how much Evolve Bank & Trust, the lender where her funds were supposed to be held, was prepared to return to her.
“We were informed last Monday that Evolve was only going to pay us $500 out of that $280,000,” Morris said during a court hearing last week, her voice wavering. “It’s just devastating.”"
"The mystery of where those funds are hasn’t been solved, despite six months of court-mediated efforts between the four banks involved. That’s mostly because the estate of Andreessen Horowitz-backed Synapse doesn’t have the money to hire an outside firm to perform a full reconciliation of its ledgers, according to Jelena McWilliams, the bankruptcy trustee.
But what is now clear is that regular Americans like Morris are bearing the brunt of that shortfall and will receive little or nothing from savings accounts that they believed were backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government.
The losses demonstrate the risks of a system where customers didn’t have direct relationships with banks, instead relying on startups to keep track of their funds, who offloaded that responsibility onto middlemen like Synapse."
Customers believed the accounts were backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government.
A Synapse contract that customers received after signing up for checking accounts stated that user money was insured by the FDIC for up to $250,000, according to a version seen by CNBC.
In June, the FDIC made it clear that its insurance fund doesn’t cover the failure of nonbanks like Synapse, and that in the event of such a firm’s failure, recovering funds through the courts wasn’t guaranteed.
These fintech bros are the worst
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This is heart-wrenching. Self-custody is not without its obstacles, but this trustless system allows us to shape our own destiny!
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wow
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they should be insured up to 250k at least, no?
mind you, with bitcoin Kayla could have lost her keys and coins as well. shit happens
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According to the article some users lost all of their money. Some funds were recovered... but other account holders lost all of their money despite the appearance of FDIC.
"Unlike meme stocks or crypto bets, in which the user naturally assumes some risk, most customers viewed funds held in Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.-backed accounts as the safest place to keep their money. People relied on accounts powered by Synapse for everyday expenses like buying groceries and paying rent, or for saving for major life events like home purchases or surgeries.
Several people CNBC interviewed said signing up seemed like a good bet since Yotta and other fintechs advertised that deposits were FDIC-insured through Evolve.
“We were assured that this was just a savings account,” Morris said during last week’s hearing. “We are not risk-takers, we’re not gamblers.”
Abandoned by U.S. regulators who have so far declined to act, they are left with few clear options to recoup their money.
In June, the FDIC made it clear that its insurance fund doesn’t cover the failure of nonbanks like Synapse, and that in the event of such a firm’s failure, recovering funds through the courts wasn’t guaranteed."

No question holding one's own keys has risks and personal responsibility is a must. However if a seed phrase is generated with an open-source hardware wallet and kept secure... the bank cannot 'fail'. At least these people would have their own money still. A cautionary tale in my opinion.
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people, young people especially, are way too lax for fintechs. they have a ton of money on there, but if something goes south, no support. at least my fiat bank has a number i can call.
i like revolulet and wise a lot, but they are treated as hot wallets only
this is extra bad because it was old people that didn't understand the difference. not sure if the outcome would have been different if they were EU-based customers
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why the **** didn't they just get a blockstream jade (what are they, 50-60$?) and just stick some or all of their money in there?
and now Trezor is selling a hardware wallet for what... around 50€ these days? Those are not "perfect" solutions for saving - Bitcoin is volatile and it takes personal responsibility too. But they wouldn't have lost their funds they would still have them.
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The TV and their financial advisor said bitcoin was too risky because its volatile.
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who watches tv anymore?
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Boomers
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