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746 sats \ 27 comments \ @grayruby 14 Nov Politics_And_Law
Great article in the National Post by John Ivison about a Vietnamese family that fled communism to now have their property expropriated and redistributed in Canada.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/they-came-fleeing-communism-now-ottawas-expropriating-and-redistributing-their-property
TLDR: The Nguyen family left Vietnam in the 70s when the communists took over. They rebuilt their lives in Canada and started a fishing business. They struggled for decades but the business eventually became successful. Now the Canadian government (Department of Fisheries) is stepping in to expropriate 75% of their quota and redistribute it to local First Nations and their own employees.
I sent this article to all my Canadian Real Estate truther friends who keep piling all their net worth into real estate. If they will take your fish, what stops them from taking your rental properties?
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161 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheMorningStar 15 Nov
Very bad. The governments Suck everywhere.
afaict, if government in Canada don't separate private land to public land, they'll eventually takeaway everything unless people don't let them. In India my land is my own and its registered only for the records.
However, there are many new buildings which are constructed by the governments to provide shelter to the poor and they all remain government property even after the poor pay installments for so called ownership of the house. The ownership is actually a kind of agreement which says that they can't sell the property. So it's not real ownership.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 15 Nov
The ownership is actually a kind of agreement which says that they can't sell the property.
They can't rent it. They can't buy another house or property. They can't use it for any commercial activity.
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45 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xbitcoiner 14 Nov
fishing quota (private property? no, right?) is very different from renting properties, but it's a sign of things to come. Very bad ...
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44 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 14 Nov
If you have a license to fish then the fish you catch are your property.
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50 sats \ 7 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Nov
I certainly feel for them, but they did have to travel right past America to get to Canada.
Americans have been telling everyone that Canadians are a bunch of commies, since the dawn of time.
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33 sats \ 6 replies \ @grayruby OP 14 Nov
Fair. I don't think America was very welcoming to the Vietnamese in the 70s.
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40 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Nov
How's the view from your high horse?
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20 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby OP 14 Nov
I have no horse when my government is stealing people's shit. It's a disgrace and embarrassing. I am just pointing out why they might have preferred Canada at the time.
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40 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Nov
It really is horrible. During the height of the War on Terror, we strongly considered moving to Canada or New Zealand. How the mighty have fallen.
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16 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby OP 14 Nov
Good thing you didn't. I expect things will marginally improve once Trudeau is out but so much of the nanny state nonsense and welfare state has become entrenched it is hard to change things. Mike Harris is still talked about like he is the devil by much of the population in Ontario from when he was Premier of the province all he did was cut some social/gov programs so they could balance the budget and people talk about it like they were suffering through the Irish potato famine.
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40 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 14 Nov
We have some family that might be moving to Toronto for work reasons, but they're moving from one of America's most expensive commie cities, so it's more or less a lateral move.
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 14 Nov
Toronto is a nice city if you have to live in the city. If they do plan to move let me know and I will send you some good areas to live.
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44 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 15 Nov
Unpaywalled version of the article:
https://archive.vn/UOtWe
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 15 Nov
There was a paywall? Interesting. Maybe outside of Canada. No paywall on my end.
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40 sats \ 2 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 15 Nov
Why did they run from one communist place to another? The socialists have been strong in Canada for a long time. Socialism is just disguised (or last step to) communism according to Marxist theory. Now they are intangled with the communist state. The US took in a lot of Vietnamese during the late 70s or did they come over in the early 70’s? The two cases would have been very different. BTW, your investing friends probably don’t want to hear it and denial would be strong.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby OP 15 Nov
The article said they came to Canada in 75.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 15 Nov
Hmmm ……. The US had just gotten a load of Vietnamese that were airlifted out around that time. So, I don’t think it would have been too difficult to come to the US. There are lots of Hmong and other Vietnamese here in my local area, although I am not sure when they arrived. Of course, there is not much commercial fishing here because we are far inland.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 15 Nov
Communists be like: Who can we expropriate value from next?
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40 sats \ 2 replies \ @7e6e393a56 15 Nov
We also have the example of the Cubans, who fled that tragic island and have already experienced the devastating moral and economic consequences of collectivist policies that seek to model an egalitarian society -- a failed experiment that sought to create a "new man", who would have a worldview communal and would always sacrifice himself for the "common good".
This experiment resulted in an anti-utopian and economically bankrupt society, whose main characteristics are widespread poverty and an incredibly repressive system of social control, managed by a government with unlimited powers over its citizens.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby OP 15 Nov
Well said.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @7e6e393a56 15 Nov
Thank you... we have to be vigilant against these dictatorial regimes
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20 sats \ 3 replies \ @Shugard 15 Nov
Why is Canada becoming one of the shittiest socialist countries?
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20 sats \ 2 replies \ @bren 15 Nov
The rural areas are still nice, the cities not so much.
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24 sats \ 1 reply \ @Shugard 15 Nov
The countryside is fucking beautiful! Man, the nature around you is amazing!
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2 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 15 Nov
It’s a beautiful country with great people. First thing we need to do is get Trudeau out next year. Then maybe we can start shrinking the government a bit.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell 15 Nov
Join our song comrade!! Sing the hymn of the Great Leader, towards a future no one ever tried before!!
Cooombatiendoo el Caapitaaalll 🎵
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 14 Nov
That's not bad Got freedom
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