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What's the best & easiest "ATTACH WALLET" solution for a newbie stacker?

695 sats \ 47 comments \ @IamSINGLE 22 Oct bitcoin_beginners

Just been thinking a lot about which one to choose because I see there are a lot of options. I've been here for sometime but I'm still new to Bitcoin and SN. Some options are 'send and recieve both' while some are 'send only' or 'recieve only'. I'm putting up all combinations in the options.

So thinking from the perspective of a beginner, please answer and kindly include 'Why' in the comments.

What's the best & easiest "ATTACH WALLET" solution for a newbie stacker?

Web LN + Lightning Address12.0%

Blink + Lightning Address20.0%

LNC + LND4.0%

LNbits8.0%

NWC36.0%

Phoinexd0.0%

Blink (Any other Wallet) + LND0.0%

Blink (Any other Wallet) + CLN0.0%

Another wallet + Lightning Address4.0%

I can suggest easier and better16.0%

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55 sats \ 0 replies \ @plebpoet 22 Oct

NWC has the most votes for now...Here's a challenge: please put forward an explanation of nostr wallet connect for a newbie

33 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 22 Oct

NONE - the easiest 😂😂😂😂

51 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Nothing is tough for you. You aren't Darth for nothing.

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @Golu 22 Oct

Good question! I need to know how to do it. But the answers seem to make it more difficult. 😉

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 22 Oct

I asked a very similar question yesterday #734615 but i don't think I asked it correctly. Now because of you I've got the answer. Thank you so much.

45 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 22 Oct

I think of someone's a newbie he can start with a custodial wallets like Blink and for reciving sats he can use the lightning address from the same.

He must only know beforehand that he needs to transfer his sats to a safer place as soon as the stack grows. I don't put more than a few thousand sats in a custodial wallet.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 22 Oct

I second Blink. Wrote about it here: #723186

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 23 Oct

Blink for sure.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 22 Oct

I used Alby Desktop and thought it was pretty easy. You need a desktop computer or a laptop that you can leave running, though.

51 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

This won't be easier for everyone to do I think. For zapping and recieving sats a custodial wallet would be fine for newbies for the ease of setting up. So many people even won't have a PC to run the node.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @SpaceHodler 22 Oct

My setup is Blink for zaps and a LN address for withdrawals. I could have set it up with Coinos, but it's potentially a service I may use for larger amounts outside of SN, and I didn't want to leak the keys (or whatever they're called).

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

As I asked for the newbies, I'm also of the view that the setup with SN recommended should be the easiest. The Blink setup is definitely the easiest. We have dedicated tab on SN for Blink and also for lightning address. This makes it super easy for newbies imo.

11 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet 22 Oct

Do some nagging here and it'll be as easy as entering a lightning address and hitting accept in ShockWallet

https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/issues/1478

111 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

But this is an issue not a PR. So it'll take a little more than nagging.

47 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Thanks 🙏 I'm surely eying somthing like that. IMO, there should be something super easy to start with external wallet with SN.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @flat24 22 Oct

The most comfortable option seems to be NWC with Coinos. Coinos solves both points (sending and receiving in an LN address) I don't know if it is the best option, because I honestly haven't tried the others to be able to make a comparison.

but without a doubt the configuration through Coinos is something simple and manageable for any novice, and with the guide from @supratic or others that other users have left, surely anyone can attach their wallet to SN with Coinos

11 sats \ 6 replies \ @DEADBEEF 22 Oct

For me it was Coinos with NWC + Lightning Address

#734092

40 sats \ 5 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Do we need to setup a node with coinos?

11 sats \ 4 replies \ @DEADBEEF 22 Oct

No, it is a custodial wallet. So just be sure you don’t have more in it than you are willing to lose.

40 sats \ 3 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

So, it must be very easy. I'm just reading the guide #694593 and it suggests to input Lightning Address and attach coinos as NWC? Right?

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @DEADBEEF 22 Oct

Yep, that’s it. There is a slightly updated guide here: #734359

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Thanks

So be triple sure you know your password to your CoinOS wallet! Logout and log back in. Like @supratic says it's a gift and a curse that there's no email or kyc needed, but if you lose your password you lose your sats. Be triple sure you got it memorized because otherwise you just lost your ENTIRE SN BALANCE.

This is the update I think. Coinos doesn't include any login method except the password so we have to remember it or keep it in memory.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @realBitcoinDog 22 Oct

BINGO

11 sats \ 23 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

Blixt wallet (or Pheonix if you're outside the US)

30 sats \ 11 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Do we require to setup a node for blixt or pheonix?

11 sats \ 10 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

The node is in the phone.

Pheonix does everything pretty automatically. You just have to understand what inbound and outbound liquidity are

Blixt (because it doesn't force you to only connect to one node/LSP like pheonix does) requires actually opening your own channels, but once you take a stroll through all the menu options and think about what they do, its actually pretty straight forward.

30 sats \ 9 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Both are non custodial wallets? Right? Pheonix must be easier to connect for a newbie?

311 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 22 Oct

You can’t connect Phoenix to SN for sending and we don’t support BOLT12 for receiving yet.

30 sats \ 5 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Thanks for clarification.

Can we connect Blixt?

11 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 22 Oct

I don’t know but looking at the features, it doesn’t look like it.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 22 Oct

Which one is the easiest solution? How about about Blink or coinos + ⚡ address for a newbie to start with?

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

I'm using blixt for autowithdraw now....

How is the new system working? You just need an LNURL right? I guess to zap posts you'll need something else

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

Its only a PR away! (Not really I'm meming)

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

Both are non custodial. The node is in the phone. They are neutrino lightning nodes on your phone.

Yes Pheonix is easier, but they pulled out of the US market because of perceived compliance issues (they didn't understand what the Samourai lawsuit meant for their business and decided to just run from it rather than accept the risk). Because of this, I also recommend looking into Blixt.

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @DarthCoin 22 Oct

I think you meant to say phoenixd (server) not the regular Phoenix mobile app, right?

21 sats \ 9 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

I haven't even used phoenixd. Whats that like?

The Phoenix mobile app has bolt 12 now. I haven't used it because I moved over to Blixt tho.

And obviously you have to enable the app to run in the background to be able to accept payments at all times.

400 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 22 Oct

I am using phoenixd. It’s okay. Easy setup (literally just run a binary and you’re done) and the fees are reasonable. It’s API doesn’t support msats though and it still has some issues staying up.

I would say if you’re willing to run a server but don’t want to manage liquidity, phoenixd is probably your best option rn.

However, since I actually want to manage liquidity and open my own channels for lower fees, I think I’ll move back to LND or something that supports BOLT12.

300 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 22 Oct

I moved over to Blixt tho.

Hampus is working on the desktop version now...

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

Yes I saw that. Will be good that it won't drain my poor cell phone battery anymore XD

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 22 Oct

I onboarded a merchant and he's using it on a tablet. Works perfectly fine, all day.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

Does the merchant have persistent mode turned on with an LNURL like I do tho?

300 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 22 Oct

Yes, Is running like a normal node. It shut it down only during the night when he sleep :)

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300 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 22 Oct

phoenixd is a desktop server daemon that is doing the same as Phoenix mobile app. Only that you can run it as a funding source for Lnbits, Alby Hub or another client that can't remember the name now.

Is cool and is using low resources. Nodana is offering cloud instances too for phoenixd.

I moved over to Blixt tho

So you are using it with WebLN to send?

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @nerd2ninja 22 Oct

Oh yeah...the noncustodial migration is November 5th. I haven't even looked at at all that lmao. I guess zapping people's lnurls is not quite the same as zapping their posts huh? I'll have to actually give it some thought lol.

300 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 22 Oct

I stay with cowboy credits 😂 Self custody for me is for serious stuff not for posting on SN...