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The Illusion of AGI and the Dawn of Post-Cognitive Humanitywww.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-digital-self/202410/the-illusion-of-agi-and-the-dawn-of-post-cognitive-humanity
623 sats \ 5 comments \ @south_korea_ln 19 Oct 2024 science
If AGI’s role is to handle the cognitive heavy lifting, then the true value of human thought might lie in what transcends cognition—those elusive qualities that AI can’t replicate. Intuition, creativity, and emotional experience aren’t governed by facts or logic; they’re deeply tied to our personal and subjective experience. These may represent the essence of human consciousness—qualities that live on the other side of cognition’s asymptote, untouchable by AI.
Research shows that artistic and scientific creativity may rely on different brain networks. Artistic creativity, tied to emotional and intuitive processing, contrasts with the logical reasoning used in scientific creativity. If AI assumes more of our problem-solving and data analysis, we might see a shift—a neuroplasticity-type modification in how our brains work—focusing more on creativity, intuition, and emotional experiences. In this new reality, our deeper human qualities could come to the forefront, redefining how we experience the world.
I am not sure how much i agree with the writer, but as i have only cognitive ability and scientific creativity, much less artistic creativity, intuition and emotional experience, i am likely not in a position to have an indormed opinion.
The artistic people among us (@plebpoet, @dillon,... tag others you can think of if you think it's worth it), do you believe AGI will be able to do what you're doing one day? Or do you think you're humanity is what gives you your creativity?
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305 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scroogey 19 Oct 2024
I think the distance from LLMs to AGI is much, much larger than the distance from early chat bots to LLMs. Like, we jumped from the floor onto the sofa, now we imagine jumping to the moon.
Sam Altman has economic motives for grossly misrepresenting the proximity of AGI. Of course AGI would change the world. So would cold fusion or time travel.
I'm more worried of large crowds of people taking LLM output as truth, or crashing the NASDAQ when the parlor tricks fail to astound anymore.
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1000 sats \ 2 replies \ @dillon 28 Jan
A little late to the party on this one. Thanks for the tag
It's an interesting thought. The frustrating thing is that for me and a lot of other creatives, we don't know where our ideas come from. I could be unconscious assimilation of your total human experience, or maybe the divine. If it's the first thing than A.I. might be able to compete because it already has consumed more knowledge than any human alive, but it doesn't live. A.I. doesn't experience love or heartbreak so its art may never be as true as someone in tuned with their emotions. However, A.I. being able to make art that's more beautiful than a human could is up for debate. Because its trained on all human works it most likely creates the most common beauty and the new role of the artist is to make things that the A.I. wouldn't think to create. But then once you make it, the A.I. can do it 10 times over.
As of now, A.I. doesn't direct the art, it just makes it. This allows for people with no artistic ability to create images that have profound symbolism. You could theoretically take all the art people have made and create the most common imagery found in all works. This might lead us to a better understanding of ourselves and the symbolism that guides us.
as a thought experiment I just asked chatGPT this "Think of all the art in the world and all its symbolism then create an image with the most common themes / symbols incorporated into this image make sure its coherent and makes sense as an image" and it gave me this image
So nothing totally revolutionary. You won't see that image in a museum anywhere. But it makes you ponder a little bit about our own humanity.
Ultimately it's a tool and you can either use it to enhance your art or you can stick with your own life experiences. Both are valid and I find myself in the middle ground. It helps come up with a premise or themes and can sometimes help with refining works. But TBH because of A.I. art, I've been sticking to physical art that you have to build or craft with your hands.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @south_korea_ln OP 28 Jan
Very insightful answer, thanks for taking the time even though I'll likely be the only one to read it on this old post.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @dillon 28 Jan
A little late to the party on this one. Thanks for the tag
It's an interesting thought. The frustrating thing is that for me and a lot of other creatives, we don't know where our ideas come from. I could be unconscious assimilation of your total human experience, or maybe the divine. If it's the first thing than A.I. might be able to compete because it already has consumed more knowledge than any human alive, but it doesn't live. A.I. doesn't experience love or heartbreak so its art may never be as true as someone in tuned with their emotions. However, A.I. being able to make art that's more beautiful than a human could is up for debate. Because its trained on all human works it most likely creates the most common beauty and the new role of the artist is to make things that the A.I. wouldn't think to create. But then once you make it, the A.I. can do it 10 times over.
As of now, A.I. doesn't direct the art, it just makes it. This allows for people with no artistic ability to create images that have profound symbolism. You could theoretically take all the art people have made and create the most common imagery found in all works. This might lead us to a better understanding of ourselves and the symbolism that guides us.
as a thought experiment I just asked chatGPT this "Think of all the art in the world and all its symbolism then create an image with the most common themes / symbols incorporated into this image make sure its coherent and makes sense as an image" and it gave me this image
So nothing totally revolutionary. You won't see that image in a museum anywhere. But it makes you ponder a little bit about our own humanity.
Ultimately it's a tool and you can either use it to enhance your art or you can stick with your own life experiences. Both are valid and I find myself in the middle ground. It helps come up with a premise or themes and can sometimes help with refining works. But TBH because of A.I. art, I've been sticking to physical art that you have to build or craft with your hands. Here's another image. 2 prompts. First I said "What are the 10 most common themes/symbolism in literature and art?" Then after it gave me a list I said "Make me an image that incorporates all of these themes"
This is a pretty dope image imho. I'm going to use this for the flyer for my next event haha
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @south_korea_ln OP 19 Oct 2024
*your humanity *Informed
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