Applied appropriately, the "non-aggression principle", the 6th Commandment, and the like, are absolutely how society should operate, but should these apply in the face of obvious tyranny?
How long must we endure the violating of our natural rights? Our property is stolen every single day, often multiple times per day. Our liberty is seized if we travel from A to B too quickly. If we try to fight any of this tyranny "by their rules", the buddies of the perpetrators (judges or other LEOs) will protect them.
Privacy is essentially non-existent.
We cannot truly own anything (except Bitcoin). Good luck keeping your paid-off home or vehicle if you have no source of income. Good luck doing what you want on your own property, even if it doesn't hurt anyone else. Heaven forbid you grow your own food or raise livestock.
Meanwhile, the "government", if you can even call it that, actively tries to find more and more ways to tyrranize us. That same government is involved in some of the biggest human rights abuses in the world - human trafficking, PEDOPHILIA, etc.
When will we end it?
Sometimes I wonder if we are applying our moral codes to broadly. We used to hang corrupt officials for what they're doing to us now. I'm not here to "suggest" anything, but I want to hear your thoughts.
230 sats \ 2 replies \ @davidw 12 Oct
Stay positive and cheerful amidst the relentless waves of demoralisation and distraction. This for me is a time of enlightenment, where all things negative get exposed to mobilise & organise ourselves in a better direction.
We won’t get real change without us each taking matters into our own hands and building/adopting our ideals.
As bearish as I have been about our culture in years prior, I think in the next 2 years we’re about to witness the biggest fundamental changes to culture/economies/infrastructure than we’ve seen in our lifetimes. That too may mean a new asset bubble of epic proportions. It need not be financial ruin to see to a better future. That’s what the doomers want us to believe.
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5 sats \ 1 reply \ @Taft 12 Oct
I think in the next 2 years we’re about to witness the biggest fundamental changes to culture/economies/infrastructure than we’ve seen in our lifetimes.
I agree with that. I think there will be a clash between centralized control and the rising demand for personal freedom.
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Glad to hear. I’m not sure there will even need to be a clash however. Will be obvious to all in time.
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Careful... heading into blackpill territory there. I get it though, I think we've all felt this hopelessness. I think we just have to keep working away at exiting the beast system as much as possible one day at a time
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non-aggression principle is useless without its complementary principle of self-defense. combining the feminine and masculine polarity, right brain and left brain thinking, results in wholistic reason. proper action then follows.
instead, people sit back, meditate, think happy thoughts, and wait while the crazy sick neighbors report, enslave, and destroy.
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It is true but we can always find ways to escape tyranny. It all started with BTC as you have stated. The general population is used to the nanny state for quite some time not knowing that it is a ploy to turn us into lovers of infantilism. It will become difficult to avoid confrontation with haters of real freedom but we have to confront them sooner rather than later for a final showdown.
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Look, with the filling of the state we seem to be returning to monarchy. Strong repression, numerous violations of rights, etc... That's all we have left!!!
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Post modernism - the denial of universal truth, and the insistence that power determines truth and morality - is what’s eroding our liberties in the west
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Post Modernism is what gave us Bitcoin. Cypherpunk is essentially a post modern movement as a reaction to modern Corporatism and 'late stage capitalism'. Remember that Bitcoin was created and tagged forever in a response to the failure of Global Monetary Leadership in 2008.
Denial of universal truth is the only way forward to freedom -- there is no universal truth, and anyone trying to push such an idea has an agenda, and wishes the world to comply to this one true vision of the universe. It is the enforcement of a single universal truth (generally, western religion) that has eroded liberties over the centuries, and only in the last 50-100 years have we regained some liberties stolen from us by the religious zealots.
While I agree that insistence of power as the determiner of truth is a horribly authoritarian concept that will strip liberties from the masses, the non-powerful. Something like the Billionaire class being in control of all the town squares of discourse is horrendous for our society and civilization direction toward liberty.
Embrace the post modern ambiguity of our age. There is no reason the individual needs to fill some societal definition from another era, anything else is delegating ones liberties to another persons dated ideals.
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From a strictly hypothetical ethical standpoint, nothing in the Non-Aggression Principle precludes defending yourself against organized criminality (including the state). If people are taking the NAP to mean that, then they are applying it too broadly.
As a matter of practicality, I agree with Lew Rockwell's position that "Violence is the tool of the state" and we should avoid resorting to it whenever possible. The regime would much prefer violent opposition over peaceful non-compliance. They have myriad tools for dealing with the former and almost none for dealing with the later.
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If evil fuckers sense that you're a pushover they'll pounce!
But if they sense that you're willing to scale all the way rapidly they'll let you be.
This has worked well for me since I was a teen, never had to fight at all ;-)
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I agree with that. The successful Bundy standoffs with the Feds were good examples.
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You just made my point with someone else's philosophy.
we should avoid resorting to it whenever possible
Isn't that what we've been doing? How's that been working out for us?
The line in the sand can't just be "direct aggression towards me or my family" because it may likely never happen. Meanwhile, the oppression furthers.. slowly.
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I don't see how violent opposition would benefit us and I'm inclined to assume anyone advocating for it is a Fed.
Bitcoin and other freedom tech has the potential rug pull the old coercive apparatus. Living peacefully outside of their control is better resistance than dying in a head to head fight (which is all that would be accomplished).
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Accusing someone of being a "Fed" is becoming one of those over-used phrases akin to "conspiracy theorist". Do you remember 1776?
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Do you remember 1861-1865?
What's the plan here? From where I sit violence will only be met with additional violence and the public will not be siding with the rebels.
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I think you're assuming I'm saying militias should form and they should overtly fight against our government. I'm not.
What I think should be done is my own opinion. I'm moreso interested in the discussion here.
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That's fair. Like I said, it's not inherently unethical, but I perceive it as being presently unwise.
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The form in most people's minds, I would consider unwise as well.