Correlation and a Coincident are no proof of causation. So there is no proof this is because of Ozempic. But what else could be the difference between 2023-2022 and 2022-2021? Another aspect is that this trend is more pronounced among college educated (=people with presumably easier access to Ozempic):
112 sats \ 11 replies \ @Satosora 10h
People cant afford to be fat anymore.
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127 sats \ 6 replies \ @zuspotirko OP 10h
Are you suggesting obesity fell because of food prices? Like, not in 2001, not in 2005, not after the great recession in 2008, not in 2017, not in 2022 but precisely in 2023 it became too expensive to get Obesity?
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25 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 9h
If that were the story, the relationship with education should be flipped.
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25 sats \ 4 replies \ @Satosora 9h
Maybe l shiur reiterate.
People dont have the money to spend eating out as much anymore.
Im not saying they are eating healthier in any way.
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130 sats \ 2 replies \ @zuspotirko OP 8h
I get that. And I get that food has become more expensive.
But I think it's a wild conclusion to say this is the reason for peak obesity.
Expenditure for food at home only rose to as high as they were in 2017. Americans spend more on food because they eat out more. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery/chart-detail/?chartId=76967
You're right in a sense that it's not nothing. But hard for me see to see food prices rising in 2021/2022 to cause weight loss in 2023.
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 8h
You have to be careful with that conclusion. The data shows Americans spent more, but fast food prices increased, so we don't know if they ate more from seeing that they spent more.
Weight loss itself takes time and is only going to be recorded at some sort of medical check-up. If you start eating out less in 2021-2022, it's perfectly reasonable that it would take until 2023 for a doctor to record that you are no longer obese.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 5h
Especially with companies transitioning to hsa, if you are unhealthy it us very exensive.
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125 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 9h
Right, but that would primarily effect lower income people, wouldn't it?
Or, is the idea that it's college educated people specifically who realized that fast-food is too expensive now?
There could be a story where everyone reduced their fast food intake, but college educated people substituted to healthier alternatives, while non-college grads switched to cheaper but similarly unhealthy foods.
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34 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 7h
Its actually cheaper to eat poorly than more healthy options. This is a major reason for obesity in poorer communities. They aren't eating real food.
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20 sats \ 2 replies \ @Signal312 5h
I've heard that said a lot, but I'm not sure it's true.
Take drinks, for example. Drink water instead of soda, fancy bottled iced tea, fancy juices, and you're going to be much healthier and have more money left.
And if you're spending 20% of your food budget on drinks, then you're much better off.
When I see what look like lower income people in the grocery store, they don't have the truly cheap food (bulk flour, rice, oats, potatoes, etc). Their carts are almost always loaded up with expensive junk food of all kinds. Crap like lunchables, chips, sodas, etc.
One exception here is new immigrants. They will often have what I'd consider to be a fairly health grocery cart.
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34 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 3h
That's fair. I will say it is easier to get crap food in poor areas vs. real food. I'm not saying to excuse poor diets. Individual responsibility is a factor for sure.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 5h
If we just put that fake sugar in everything, it would solve all of our problems lol
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57 sats \ 9 replies \ @Undisciplined 9h
One possibility is that Covid and its comorbidity with obesity was a wake up call for these folks. "College educated" is a pretty good proxy for "covid hysteric".
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211 sats \ 7 replies \ @zuspotirko OP 8h
Covid happened in 2020. Obesity rate made a sharp angle in 2023. Your explanation doesn't make sense to me since nothing happened in 2021 and 2022.
I think Ozempic is the more likely explanation
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41 sats \ 3 replies \ @BTC_Bellzer 8h
Took a little bit for the jab to wipe out quite a few
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 8h
I don't think those excess death numbers are very significant compared to obesity numbers, but that explanation would also fit the college vs non-college observations.
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29 sats \ 1 reply \ @BTC_Bellzer 8h
No, I just think it contributes is all
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 8h
Yeah, whatever the explanation, there was an increase in the death rate of obese people during those years.
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5 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 8h
That certainly might be the better explanation.
The kink point in the chart seems to be right during the pandemic, though, and the rate of increase appears to have already started declining. I'm not sure it points unambiguously towards a 2023 effect.
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22 sats \ 1 reply \ @tomlaies 7h
2023 was the first year with a decline
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 7h
The previous data point appears to be 2020, though. You can't say from that when the decline started.
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 9h
đź‘€ #710708 during covid
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141 sats \ 0 replies \ @nym 8h
Ozempic
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 8h
Being physically fit will be an even bigger status symbol. Like being pale in the 1800s or being tan in the 90s. You're either in the social class that can afford Ozempic or one of the poors that can't
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4 sats \ 0 replies \ @023ad18700 7h
Obesity has fallen and so has McDonald’s sales could those go hand in hand?
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35 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 9h
Obesity and Severe Obesity Prevalence in Adults: United States, August 2021–August 2023 (Published: 9/24/2024)
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @wingalt 7h
High cost of food, starvation is good for your health
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 1h
It's good for USA. It's good for the food prices as well.
I just wonder if it's the result of Yoga.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @crrdlx 3h
No question in my mind: this is due to the high inflation rate. In other words, the lower value of money means they can buy and eat less.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 5h
Aha, found the article I was looking for. It's a great one.
The Great Ozempic Hustle: The GLP-1 saga epitomizes the unsustainable corruption within our medical system
Here's a couple quotes from the summary. Emphasis is mine:
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 5h
Here's the unpaywalled version:
https://archive.vn/XRS8k
Also, yeah, it's widespread. I have a number of friends and acquaintances that are doing it, and all have lost weight. One stopped for a year, because of the gaunt "ozempic face", but is now back on it again, because she gained weight back again.
And there's digestive upsets that happen as well.
I fully believe that the long-term dangers of these drugs. are slowly but surely coming into view. Actually I recently read an article on the dangers of these drugs and was going to link it, but now I can't find it anymore.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jakoyoh629 6h
A temporary dip before the upward trajectory resumes. Or has it plateaued?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheWildHustle 7h
If I walk around the corner to 7/11, 7 out of 10 people I see will be obese.
And is ozempic some sort of miracle pill with no side effects? What's going on?
Hustle just did some quick online research
1k a month for the ozempic shots.
Imagine dca'ing into ozempic
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BTCLNAT 10h
The association between variables requires correlation or association measures, in this case since a drop in the prevalence of obesity was determined and it could be due to factors such as diet, schooling (university or non-university), the use of Ozempic. Then a case-control study must be developed, where people who have reduced their body weight and others who have not are evaluated, then the variables DIET, SCHOOLING AND USE OF Ozempic are controlled in both groups and according to the OR value and taking into account the confidence index and the alpha error, the association or not between these variables and weight loss can be determined. It is as easy as that.
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