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181 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_bitcoiner 5 Sep 2022
I cannot agree with this more. Don't get me started on this. 😡
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210 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 5 Sep 2022
I can confirm.
I was self hosting my private domain and email for many years and lately I saw this behavior of big ISP and email providers that are trying to push private domains and in special those self hosted into spam lists. Even if you as admin you do all possible to clear out your email server/IP adding all necessary info DKIM / SPF / reverse DNS / PTR good MX config etc, they still kleep adding you in their paid spam lists.
I simply add to all my emails, if are sent to domains like outlook.com a simple note: stop using hosted email servers / providers to wake people up of this danger.
Slowly my personal contacts start using more personal domains and we have a nice and direct communication.
But yeah the threat is REAL and they push hard.
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @EnormousPony 8 Sep 2022
The basic issue of Email is that it's cheaper to send spam and it's costly to prevent it. What if in a near future sending an Email could cost a few sats? If we can find a way to invert the costs of email this alone should lower the incentive to use the protocol as a cheap spamming system
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110 sats \ 3 replies \ @pi 5 Sep 2022
This can't be fixed with a new protocol, and the probability that they change the current one is extremely low.
We can only hope that, with time, electronic communication slowly moves to a new medium, e.g. instant messaging. This would be our second chance to make things right.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinosphere 6 Sep 2022
Disagree. We just can't use their network. Luckily we made our own called Lightning.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @pi 6 Sep 2022
Lightning's for payments. We're talking about messaging.
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinosphere 7 Sep 2022
Tell that to all the layer 3 apps being build above lightning right now.
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @aljaz 8 Sep 2022
well not only that delivery is a pita, even if you succeed you still end up sending most of the emails to big providers anyway which limits the upside of hosting it yourself
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinosphere 6 Sep 2022
We need a layer 3 email client that can compete with Gmail. Maybe using Nostr?
It could have a dash of Hashcash and look just like Gmail, but be a whole new network.
Satmail?
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @ken 5 Sep 2022
It all flows through Google, unfortunately.
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125 sats \ 0 replies \ @theswissroadtocrypto 5 Sep 2022
long live hash cash an POW - the tool initially invented to combat spam
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12 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryptocoin 5 Sep 2022
Here's a Tweet by the author of the blog post that kicks off the Twitter thread where this blog post article was announced:
https://twitter.com/cfenollosa/status/1566484145446027265
https://nitter.it/cfenollosa/status/1566484145446027265 <-- Shows the thread in a single, easy-to-read, web page
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptocoin 5 Sep 2022
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @faithandcredit 5 Sep 2022
Thanks for sharing. Nostr to the rescue?
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151 sats \ 0 replies \ @mf 6 Sep 2022
Purely altruistic suggestion. https://purelymail.com is a very basic and cheap service if you don't need most of the other cruft.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @mrldotsh OP 5 Sep 2022
Note: not my post.
Note 2: I had to change/shorten the title on SN so it would fit the character limit.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Krv 7 Mar
Perhaps some kind of nostr to email bridge with zaps per email is part of the solution in the short term.
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