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21 sats \ 7 replies \ @psychosage 26 Aug \ on: Ukraine: Further attempts at escalation news
Welp, I am new to this app and accidentally zapped this post twice trying to go back to the home page, so I guess I now have to reply given that I have essentially supported Russian propaganda.
No, I am not suggesting you are Russian, or a Russian propagandist. I have tried not to chime in on anything war related because I am not here to serve peoples ego, therefor propagandist messaging will always defeat me.
I will say, however, since I am here that you ask yourself the question, “who stands to gain from the messages I promote?” If you are not one of them, why bother at all? If it only serves to get some cheap kicks out of making contrarian talking points, it would be less damaging to the real world if you relegated that to more trivial topics like video games or whatever.
Going back to “who stands to gain” - if you do benefit, carry on, you probably are indeed Russian and a beneficiary of the Putin regime. If you are not a Russian benefitting from the Putin regime, I’m afraid you’ve been duped. Anti-war sentiment is useful to feel good about yourself, but it is only to the benefit of the belligerent of war when those largely unaffected by their crimes are touting anti-war messaging. The belligerent can keep making war all they want they can convince anti-war citizens to influence their leaders with the same stance.
If you could time travel, would you kill Hitler? Personally, I wouldn’t. I might, however, try my best to arm Poland to the gills with landmines and other anti-tank weaponry. But in reality, I would not do that either, because I am a 21st century web designer who plays block games in his free time. I could not even fathom the scope of the unseen damage sown by negligent actions.
Conservatism tempers liberal hubris. Progressivism tempers conservative complacency. This post seems to have somehow used hubris to maintain complacency and I am not even sure how to begin to try to gently guide you toward a more sensical narrative. So, if any of this reply makes sense, let me know if you want me to elaborate on anything.
i don't think you understand what function wars have in the fiat money system and how they arise and how they are escalated and to what consequences they lead. but of course you are free to follow your own opinion and absorb the propaganda you are surrounded with. and no i am not russian and no i don't want to live in a russian regime but i still believe as a person who grew up in the formerly free west that neutrality is a position that has its justification. especially from a humanist point of view.
You should urgently look into the geopolitical situation in Ukraine, its history and the maximum demands that the British and their proponents in particular have repeatedly made for the dismantling of the Russian empire. This is about access to resources and pricing power.
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You are right that it is about access to resources and pricing power. Everything else is based on the false premise that these institutions have adults in the room. Knowing that, you are left with the path of least human suffering. Sometimes you have to burn a line in the forest to stop a blaze spreading to exponentially more damage.
Truth and love always prevail because light eventually sheds on lies and hate. It gets messy sometimes, and that sucks. I know it seems paradoxical, but there is indeed less human suffering involved by stopping Putin. Putin is a dark triad. The only thing he wants is more for himself, and when he doesn’t, more suffering on others will suffice. This isn’t a propagandist narrative, it’s verifiable scientific research based on how narcissistic machveiallian psychopaths function. When you use the dark triad as the north star for how Putin thinks and functions, his trajectory is quite predictable.
Stopping him is the only way. And it does not require dismantling the Russian state as you seem to think I am suggesting. All it takes is to get enough Russian citizens pissed off at him and kick him out of the Kremlin, crossing their fingers that someone with a better head on their shoulders will take over. Ukraine knows this, and they know that killing (and preferably capturing) young Russian conscripts is a good way to do that. They probably have a thousand other reasons to do what they are doing, but again, I am some idiot playing keyboard warrior and not much else.
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i can understand your point from your point of view, but i completely disagree. firstly, i don't believe that you can defeat a nuclear power like Russia with such a stable economy and low national debt and support for the political regime in war. and secondly, i have just as little faith in our so-called elites as the eu or the entire criminal force in London not to believe that a lot is being played wrong here too. hence my position of neutrality, and saving as many lives as possible. And from a libertarian point of view, I could also care less whether I live under the criminal force A or the crook force B
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If you want to stay neutral, stay silent. By saying something, you are picking a side. You spoke, and picked a side. I spoke and obviously picked the opposing side. As a consequence, both crooks won and we lost because we could have been spending our precious time on things that we can directly control, like our individual economic output, or supporting our families, or strengthening our community, or speaking about things that we are experts in and actually have some semblance of authority in our assertions.
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I can barely order a coffee in the morning, brother. You should seek elsewhere if you’re looking for a C.O.
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Brother... interesting. I guess he is not your brother and he doesn't want to be your brother. I would never start a discussion with a psycho. So just stay away from this guy @TomK
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