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5 sats \ 15 replies \ @oliverweiss 24 Aug \ parent \ on: "If India Stops Buying Oil From Russia, The War Will End" Zelenskey lol
You just wrote that Zelensky is a dictator and the Ukrainian army is a Nazi army?
Sure did. Are you not familiar with the Azov Brigade or that he suspended elections and banned political opposition?
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How is a militia evidence for the president being a dictator?
How do you expect a country to hold elections during having territory occupied and citizens dispersed through other countries in Europe? This is pretty normal. Britain skipped a real election in 1940 too.
Zelensky was democratically elected in 2019 and there will be elections after the war.
On the other hand Putin holding onto power for the last decades is very sus. With the voting results looking like this (financial times):
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You can't just assert as fact what will happen in the future. What we know right now is that elections have been suspended (not democratic) and political opposition has been banned (not democratic). It's fine with me if that doesn't meet your threshold for dictatorial behavior, but that's where I'm coming from.
I never said having a militia makes one a dictator. If they are not part of the Ukrainian military then I simply misunderstood the organizational structure.
I'm not sure why you're even mentioning Putin. I didn't say anything about him.
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OMG, you are fucking moron and shithead. Never said that to anyone here and may even get banned. You are so fucking wrong. I had some respect for you but all gone.
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Interesting response
Have you considered evidence instead of name calling?
I'm open to being wrong about pretty much anything. These are the facts that have been reported here.
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Ukraine is in the fucking war, if you didn’t notice. And the constitution allows to postpone elections in this case. The Ukrainian army is not the Azov Brigade only, fucking thousands innocent people died in this god damn war, you call them Nazis. I am not going to waste my time with you anymore.
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So is Russia in the fucking war, if you didn't know.
Thousands of Russians have also died. They were also innocent people.
In short, It's a war for which you just can't go on blaming Russia and asking other countries to support you. There are things from both ends that needs to be addressed.
I'm not in support of Putin, nor rooting for Zelensky.
But, who the hell is Zelensky to think he is to ask India from where to buy?
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"In short, It's a war for which you just can't go on blaming Russia"
o.O
Remember how Obama tried to "reset" relations with russia? Ukraine voted to abandon NATO membership and set a neutral status in 2010. How it ended? And after 2014 why it wants again to join?
Same with Moldova, but in 1994. And yet former russian 14th army still stays here as a "peacekeepers" troops in transnistria, with a big ammunition depot in Cobasna still intact. And Moldova still is a neutral state, and still vulnerable to russia. Hell even Gazprom halved the export of gas in Moldova 2 years ago in mid winter in autumn, to CIS member exploiting total dependence on russian gas.
No it's not to blame russia for this and future wars in eastern europe if Ukraine loses.
P.S. in the draft of the peace deal from march 2022, russia wanted for Ukraine to have neutral status, no NATO/EU influence, including the help in any way, even a humanitarian aid without the consent of all garants of the peace (including russia) AND an army with 85 thousand people, ~350 tanks. With that pathetic army even Belarus could destroy Ukraine. And I repeat that was russian requirement. Putin wants full capitulation, not peace, and you play with him. That's why I agree with @oliverweiss that you are a big moron.
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In short, It's a war for which you just can't go on blaming Russia
What the fuck is wrong with you? Were you hit to your head?
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Calling people names, or otherwise disparaging them, isn't going to make people reevaluate their views. All it's going to do is change their opinion of you.
If you don't have a counterargument, it's ok to say nothing. If you do have an argument, then there's no reason to fly into a snit over somebody's statement.
It's a big world, with lots of viewpoints. Throwing a tantrum whenever someone's understanding differs from yours is not very productive.
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I am not going to waste my time with you anymore.
All good. Sorry you have no tolerance for differing viewpoints.
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You can have different opinions but can’t have different facts.
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Is it possible that you only consume western media?
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There was once Ukraine in its borders, recognized by Russia. Then thousands of Russians invaded the country, and still do. I wonder what media could possibly give this differently?
You didn't counter my facts, though. Also, you absolutely can have different facts when there's an environment of uncertainty. It's a matter of evaluating the available evidence.
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