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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @sirstackalot 20 Aug \ parent \ on: Ceasefire Collapse: Netanyahu Faces Backlash Over Gaza Talks news
This is what you said:
That's a statement that requires intimate knowledge of past and current events to make. You sound very sure of yourself.
Let me reiterate and state this as clearly as possible so that you'll no longer be able to put words into mouth:
- I do not advocate murder of children
- I advocate eradication of terrorists, even at the expense of their children and their people's children who are being used as combatants on the battlefield
Do you see the difference?
The conflicts involving Pearl harbor and 9/11 aren't comparable to the Arab-Israeli conflict for reasons that are beyond the scope of this comment to go into, but learning about Judaism and Islam is a good start. Probably even better than visiting the holy land at this point, so you've saved yourself a ticket.
I advocate eradication of terrorists, even at the expense of their children and their people's children
Murder is the unjust killing of a person. You are just confirming my claim, but you don't realize it.
I don't know that you have to be an expert in Israeli history to know that a different group of people lived there in recent history and were removed from the land. We get a pretty relentless stream of Zionist propaganda, so the Israeli's version of events is pretty well known.
Since I'm not a collectivist, I don't actually need to learn anything about Judaism or Islam to evaluate whether or not killing Palestinian children is wrong. Like I said previously, my morality is not contingent on the identities of the people involved.
Thanks for playing, though. Better luck next time.
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You're either acting in bad faith or are a fool to ignore the distinctions I made in my above comment. But your interest is to defame Israel regardless of facts on the ground. Ask yourself why is this so....
to know that a different group of people lived there in recent history and were removed from the land
Wow, that's a uncanny demonstration of your ignorance. Again, I suggest you learn about the history of the land and the peoples involved to form an educated opinion on the subject...
Prioritizing the interests of your people i.e. your family and your nation over those of foreigners is not collectivism. Another strawman. It's the natural tendency of healthy human beings and is a derivative of natural law. But I didn't expect you to make the distinction.
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You're either acting in bad faith or are a fool to ignore the distinctions I made
I didn't ignore them and that's not an argument.
But your interest is to defame Israel regardless of facts on the ground. Ask yourself why is this so....
Back to this lazy smear, huh? The facts on the ground are that the Israeli government is refusing to engage in real peace talks, while killing tens of thousands of children. I don't think slaughtering children is an inherent value of Judaism, so I don't think opposing it makes me antisemitic.
Also, "Prioritizing the interests of your people i.e. ... your nation over those of foreigners is not collectivism." literally, yes, that is collectivism. I don't think family and friends are the same, though, because you have personal relationships with those individual people. Basing your analysis of morality on the groups people belong to, rather than the actions the individuals have taken, is the definition of collectivism.
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