2 sats \ 9 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 7 Aug \ parent \ on: Who Caused the Ukraine War? BooksAndArticles
Russia hates Ukraine but it fears NATO
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142 sats \ 8 replies \ @Kytsa 7 Aug
Were the Russians afraid of Nato when they razed Chechnya to the ground? Or when they took a few percent of the land of Georgia? No NATO is to blame. Moskoviti (the old name of the Russians) are imperialists who plunder Ukrainian territories at least once every century.
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1 sat \ 7 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 7 Aug
Ukraine is different from Georgia and Chechnya
It’s a large country that borders Russia
It’s also a terrible idea for NATO to expand membership to Ukraine, a poor corrupt country
Zelensky is open to a ceasefire.
Edit: Hate alone isn’t the reason for invading or going to war. Fear , honor or interest
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @saunter 7 Aug
NATO does not expand, countries join NATO if they will to.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 7 Aug
NATO is not Ellis Island. Unanimous consensus among existing members is a requirement.
USA senate must approve any new members with a super majority, 2/3 or 67 votes.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @saunter 7 Aug
Exactly. Many counties want to join nsto, mostly Russia neighbour that are afraid of being attacked like Georgia or Moldavia. But NATO I'd actually very reluctant to get new members and there was 0 chance before 2022 for Ukraine to join
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 7 Aug
Ukraine doesn't have 67 votes in US Senate
NATO expanded recently with Sweden and Finland
There were 12 founding members in 1949, now there are 32.
Why is Montenegro a member of NATO?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit : Georgia and Ukraine
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Kytsa 7 Aug
I didn't just mention hatred. Logically, this is not a reason to attack, of course, there is more. But fairy tales about evil NATO are ordinary lies and excuses. The aggressive and imperialist nature of the Russians themselves plays a major role.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve OP 7 Aug
I never said evil NATO. NATO is being geopolitically reckless and naive.
Russia's imperialist nature is not relevant. Putin is not Peter the Great or Stalin.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk 8 Aug
Putin is not Peter the Great or Stalin.
Yes, he is more like Nicholas I, who made imperial wars to conquer new territories (Russo-Persian War, Russo-Turkish War, crushed Polish uprising) until he lost Crimean War.
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