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I'm curious to hear what you think about Stackers self zapping their own post here. https://m.stacker.news/43542 Do you think it's okay to do so? Why do you think they do it?

It's not like it's hurting anyone, as there's a sybil-fee deducted that goes toward the pool, and self-zapping from low-value accounts also have less "weight" compared to active accounts.

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In Digital Marketing that is a strategy called social proof, which is used to show to customers that your product is well received by the general public.

Selfzapping could create an artificial social proof that your post is relevant. "That many zaps? The community clearly thinks this is good."

Social proof works. You are more likely to zap a popular post - a.k.a. a post that was zapped a lot - even after knowing what social proof is.

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Weโ€™re considering increasing the Sybil fee to 20%.

Iโ€™d like to also make boost easier and competitive incentives-wise with self-zapping.

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There's nothing you can do about multiple accounts. You can even do some IP-based control, but that's easily circumvented. As for stackers zapping their own accounts, I don't see much of a problem, more sats go to the rewards.

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I can think of 2 very obvious instances where a person is clearly arguing their own position all the time with multiple accounts.

One person is always online at the same time, magically appearing the same posts, and the most obvious always having the same lingo, wording, framework. It kind of ruins a lot of posts with quantitative posting that would have been interesting discussions otherwise

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One person is always online at the same time, magically appearing the same posts, and the most obvious always having the same lingo, wording, framework. It kind of ruins a lot of posts with quantitative posting that would have been interesting discussions otherwise

Looool. We all know him. Not the brightest on the left end of the iq bell curve

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not me anonymous douche bag

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okay Tom but everybody here already knows it. Too obvious

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Do you know what problem this clown has?

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He thinks that you and I are the same person who created 2 accounts

look, I've really kept it together with your behavior and stayed polite you little ethereum clown. Everyone here has realized by now that you're stupid, but what problem do you have with me? Not that I'm really interested, but your appearance here is indeed very mysterious

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The projection of talking with (((yourself))) and your two accounts

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I think I know who you're talking about.

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I only have one account

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Which 2 instances?

Show us the evidence

Gutless, spineless midwit

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Moron, I don't have multiple accounts

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It is tried a lot here by new stackers. @k00b has done a lot to disincentivize it. There was a real dramatic incident a year or so ago where a new stacker zapped himself a million sats. It was funny. Recently, a guy who I won't call out since he's still around did it on a very well crafted ai post. It worked. People thought he had legitimately garnered 100k sats and everyone kept zapping.

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What about one stacker getting zapped 1 M sats on his Bio? #29926

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There you go! Another example.

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And this one? #59734 No, nothing, it's a shit of a post. But 1.5 million! Holy crap!

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It is not unusual

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Oh yes, it's not unusual, right. But is it beneficial for the platform or not? I think it is because we get 10% in the rewards pool. Amazing I right?

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Yep. @k00b has the incentives/disincentives worked out

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LOL we know who that is. That starwars fella?

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Oh! The one about the Nostr-guide?

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No comment๐Ÿ˜€

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๐Ÿ˜œ, I thought so the moment I saw it, way too much, way too quick.

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It reeks of desperation to me, tbh

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shhhhh ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Its not possible, right? Unless you take the time to fund multiple accounts. And what is the point? If a post is good, it will get zapped.

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Plenty of stackers have multiple accounts. Anon zaps can also be done. I guess if it's done judiciously it would fly under the radar.

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But it is not done judiciously? Have I interacted with people who have multiple accounts?

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There is no way of knowing.

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I know, I have a list building...

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You have a list? Can l see it?

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yes, send me 10M sats :)

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On which one of your accounts? ๐Ÿ˜€

Is this part of your SN wallet money laundering idea?

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I bet they notice when it happens and are keeping an eye on it.

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No. It is more sophisticated that part. Using sockpuppets and zap yourself is stupid easy and can be "seen".

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How can it be seen?

@koob Are there a lot of double accounts zapping their own posts? Am I playing a rigged game?

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I've done this by mistake on Nostr more times than I care to admit.

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I guess this is people who want to bump their post up the rankings/promote it, so why not just make self zaps funds that go to the pool, because it's just another form of ads/promotion

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It sounds like @k00b's boost idea will accomplish this

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It's looks like jacking off. On the other hand zap me who never jacked off.

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Stacker News clearly labels them as "boosted" so I don't see it as an issue because it's so transparent

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