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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Jul \ parent \ on: To Help Bitcoin Flow, We’re Adding Some Liquid to the Breez SDK lightning

Why is the advantage unfair?

I’ve never heard the phrase, fair advantage. I guess all advantage is unfair.

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Jul

Advantage can be fair if someone gets market share by offering a better price and quality of the product. It is unfair if there is an artificial handicap for competitors.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Jul

Is first mover advantage unfair? Boltz has been swapping liquid and lightning long before anyone else.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Jul

Boltz and Loop are for-profit centralized businesses. PeerSwap is an open source decentralized solution, saving cost for everyone who rebalance their channels. Bitcoin is about openness and freedom. I hate it when a corporation gets cost advantage for a year over open source alternatives. If you need to beta test, do it on testnet. Early access for a selected few is so fiat. First they said Q3, now EOY. PR was merged in May. Sounds like a conspiracy to me. Or at least a conflict of interests. Boltz has no incentive to vote for public release!

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @roy 24 Jul

I get it, but:

Boltz is open-source. Join Liquid as a federation member, run their stack and compete.
Breez is now part of the Liquid federation and this will be publicly available.
PeerSwap, again, cannot be used for payments.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 24 Jul

Peer swap is not a liquid federation member?

Mystery solved!

Non members should not expect to have federation benefits.

It’s like Ukraine expecting NATO membership benefits. Maybe Ukraine is a bad example

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Jul

Elements Project is the developer of Core Lightning, Elements Core and PeerSwap. They are part of Blockstream, a Liquid Federation founding member.