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19 sats \ 28 replies \ @398ja 3 Jul 2024 \ on: Africa is not doomed to poverty econ
Most people don't realise how much of a negative impact the USSR has had in Africa. I'm happy to see it mentioned in the article.
It also rightfully mentions the positive impact of colonisation, something very important that needs to be said more often, and the article does it in a very original way, with the theory of "convergence".
All celebrated African "freedom fighters" were Marxists scholars that ruined their countries in record times. It defies logic that these same bastards are still celebrated as heroes across the continent, after all the harm inflicted on their own populations!
To name just a few well known:
- Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso)
- Kwame Nkrumah (Ghana, aka Gold Cost)
- Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe)
- And of course, every one's darling, the sacred cow Nelson Mandela!
- ...
African countries need to embrace free trade or lower tariffs on imports
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have you live in Africa ?
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no
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You have to live in Africa to understand:
-how people are living,
-the culture,
-the history,
-the money system,
-the religion aspect,
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-what did or not did colonisation ?
-what did or not did Aparteith?
-the coexistence between the nationalities, color of the skin, ethnies...
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Sorry, but this is pure BS.
I apologise in advance if I come across as rude, but these nonsense excuses are the reason why communists and statists keep winning. You cannot appease them.
Respectfully yours.
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how can you sum up by comunist and statists , it is too simplist again!!!
you need to dig their history....to understand a bit more
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Let's pretend to accept the thesis that every problem in Africa was caused by Europeans.
Europe is guilty, Africa is innocent
Blaming colonization won't alleviate poverty in Africa
Have you lived there inquiry is nonsense
I'm going to assume that @roll hates Donald Trump
Have you visited Mar a Lago?
Have you seen the Apprentice?
You have to visit Mar a Lago and watch the Apprentice to understand Trump... total nonsense
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you do not understand ...fair enough, it s your choice
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What happened in Rawanda in 1994?
Why did Hutu slaughter Tutsi?
before you ask, I have never visited Rawanda
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This has nothing to do with the article. African inter tribal wars are frequent, and very well documented.
I would actually make the argument that colonial times pacified the continent, partly thanks to increase of standard of living, modern governance, but also because it made certain inhuman practices illegal (human sacrifices, slavery etc)
However, i believe that forcing these tribes to live together within the same country was a huge mistake. You have the same dynamics in the middle East.
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Do you think it is normal that the fronters in Africa are straight lines, with angles... ?
Don t you think they create a country between ethnies that never exist before ? or split etnie that was a nation ?
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I have a favor: no more questions only declarative statements
you have exceeded your question mark quota
Geometry has doomed Africa
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"Positive impact of colonisation ?"
Why ? how ?
"ruined their countries?"
how ? why ?
Have you live in Africa ?
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I explain it in my comment. Those i have mentioned were Marxist communists that inherited relatively prosperous countries and ruined them in record time with that poisonous ideology. There are many more, like Sekou Toure in Guinea, but I doubt you're familiar with the name...
There's a reason why Ghana was called "Gold Coast". It took Nkrumah less than ten years to undo what the British had achieved in several decades. He was finally ousted by his angry people, but the damage was already done...
Thomas Sankara was not that lucky, his own people shot him. Sankara implemented Marxism with a zeal and stubborness hat would make Marx himself jaleous!
Look at South Africa today, it all started with Mandela.
The colonisation of Africa had a positive impact, there's no doubt about it, and I know exactly what I'm talking about. Same for Hong-Kong, South Korea, Singapore etc, with the only difference that they capitalised on it (like Botswana, also mentioned in the article) to lift themselves out of poverty and become prosperous.
Have you lived in Africa?
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Your explanation is too simpliste cause there are causes and their effects
Do you think it is easy to arrive at the head of gouvernement after some 100 years of colonisalisation?
Don t you think the colonizator will do everyhting for that new government to fail ?
Don t you think multinational companies will keep their factories, the ressources ... ?
How can you talk about a positive impact about Colonisation, when you invade a country, put in slavery the people, robbed their ressources.... ?
i lived in africa for 7 years. And you ?
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Sorry, but this is BS.
I will just say this: Africans practiced slavery well before the Europeans came. They actively participated in the slave trade. The article you shared tells about how former slaves in Liberia enslaved native Africans!
With respect.
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Slavery exists since the beginning of the existence of the human race.
But the trade of slavery done by France and other countries was another level
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This is also factually wrong. Arabs enslaved Africans (and Europeans! ) for a longer period, and it was extremely brutal.
Why don't you know this?
Also, do you know why there are not so many blacks in the middle East as in the Americas? Look it up, and you'll be shocked.
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Using AI 🤖
The Afro-Arab communities in North Africa differed from those in the Gulf States in several key ways:
In North Africa, racial discrimination and segregation still play a major role in separating Afro-Arabs from the mainstream Arab population in countries like Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, and Morocco[1]. In contrast, in the Arab states of the Persian Gulf, descendants of Afro-Arabs from the Swahili Coast are fully recognized as citizens, even though they do not have Arab ancestry[1].
The Afro-Arab communities in North Africa trace their origins more directly to the Arab slave trade, which brought millions of Africans across the Sahara and Red Sea[4]. However, in the Gulf states, many Afro-Arabs are descended from Muslim pilgrims, primarily from West Africa, who settled in cities like Mecca and Jeddah[1].
Culturally, the Afro-Arab communities in the Gulf states have maintained traditions like the Liwa and Fann at-Tanbura music and dance, as well as playing the mizmar[1][4]. But in North Africa, the Afro-Arab cultural influence is less visible, with the Stambali of Tunisia and Gnawa music of Morocco being the main examples[1].
So while both regions have long histories of Afro-Arab communities, the North African ones face more entrenched racism and have a more direct slave trade heritage, while the Gulf states have more fully integrated their Afro-Arab populations into the national fabric, at least officially.
Sources
[1] The Afro Arabian Community, a story - African American Registry https://aaregistry.org/story/the-afro-arabian-community-a-story/
[2] Racial Formations in Africa and the Middle East: A Transregional ... https://pomeps.org/racial-formations-in-africa-and-the-middle-east-a-transregional-approach
[3] The Gulf Scramble for Africa: GCC states' foreign policy laboratory https://www.csis.org/analysis/gulf-scramble-africa-gcc-states-foreign-policy-laboratory
[4] Afro-Arabs - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Arabs
[5] Celebrating Black History Month: Exploring the origins of 'Afro-Arab' https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/celebrating-black-history-month-exploring-the-meaning-of-afro-arab
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I was actually referring to the castration of black male slaves by the Arabs...
which countries?
what was the purpose of your move to Africa?
I'm going to assume it was not to Eat Pray Love
@erict875 provides evidence, specific examples to illustrate his points
Can you do the same?
which continent do you live now?
please don't say, dox much?
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and you , have you ever live ?
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Europeans imported the wheel to sub Sahara Africa
They were exposed to European language and culture, that's a positive
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"Positive impact of colonisation ?"
Why ? how ?
"ruined their countries?"
how ? why ?
Have you live in Africa ?
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ANC was worse than DNC in USA
How do we reverse history and propaganda?
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How can you can compare ANC vs DNC ?
ANC was worse ?
Why? how ?
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