66 sats \ 24 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 26 Jun \ parent \ on: Banning Fossil Fuels Will Make Heat Waves More Dangerous, Not Less econ
It's very unclear whether or not alternative energy sources actually have lower environmental impacts. However, it's very clear that they're more expensive and less reliable.
Can you expand on your point about air conditioning being dangerous?
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That’s all to say that it’s hard to overstate how much the world we all live in depends on our ability to control our indoor climates , regardless of the outdoor temperatures. But these systems (ACs) rely on two central components: energy and refrigerants (CFCs). And both of these components have come under attack from environmentalists and their allies in government.
The article actually mentions my point. If not, here is UNEP—
Cooling is a big contributor to global warming. Much of the existing cooling equipment uses hydrofluorocarbon refrigerants, which are potent greenhouse gases, and use a lot of energy, making them a double burden for climate change.
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Yeah, AC is highly energy intensive. It's probably a net benefit to society, though.
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What about HFC? Isn't it much more dangerous than CO2?
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I don’t consider CO2 to be dangerous, so it’s not hard for something to be more dangerous.
The problem I associate with HFCs is ozone depletion. I haven’t heard them discussed as significant greenhouse gases before.
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I also don't consider CO2 as problem if we can plant our planet the same as 100 years ago..
HFCs for ozone depletion was a fluke so there's no discussion about it at all.
The most commonly found hydrofluorocarbon is 3,790 times more damaging than carbon dioxide (when spread over a 20 year period).
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I’m extremely skeptical of these sorts of statements. “Social cost” calculations usually combine highly dubious science with completely nonsensical economics.
That said, if it’s toxic at all, then it is vastly more dangerous than CO2.
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“1430x damaging to climate” is meaningless. I know how they come up with those numbers and it’s nowhere near as precise or scientific as they make it seem.
Out of curiosity, what do you think “damaging to climate” means?
This is so 1980s
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You're right. What do you think of rising temperatures globally? How can we combat it? Do we really need to worry or let everything as it is?
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We don’t need to worry about rising temperatures
Without rising temperatures we would still be stuck in the ice age
We can’t combat or control Mother Nature
Why are rising temperatures harmful? Are cooling temperatures better for humans?
Are temperatures rising in Africa or near the equator?
Singapore 🇸🇬 is always hot , before and after global warming.
Let’s assume climate change is a crisis. What is the worst case scenario? The planet gradually melts? No oceans and rivers? The planet will explode like popcorn 🍿 in a microwave?
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My views are same as yours except for so much slashing of trees. So, what do you say? we shouldn't even worry about excess deforestation?
California grid shuts down when everyone uses AC simultaneously
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The California grid shuts down whenever someone sneezes.
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A sneeze is a carbon emission?
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