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Mercedes made some good diesel engines.
Toyota has good engines regardless, they are very robust.

Absolutely. And the other point is getting a car that I can fix myself or a local mechanic. And easily mod.

The brand new electric and hybrid vehicles are just not feasible.

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You are a surfer, right?
Anything older would do, maybe get a station wagon?
The new cars are nightmares to work on, you need all these gadgets to plug into the ecu.

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Yes that’s right . I need a car with space for surfboards and kids. What people have told me about brand new cars sounds like a nightmare as you say.

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I would say range rover classic, but they are a nightmare to work with!
But the elegance and style it has....if it is number 2, no one can be number 1.

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