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Peace is almost a forbidden word www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/06/13/the-train-has-left-the-station-and-no-one-can-stop-it/

240 sats \ 20 comments \ @erict875 17 Jun news

President Vucic says “no one is attempting to stop the war. Nobody is speaking about peace. Peace is almost a forbidden word.”

President Vucic believes we'll have a world conflict within 3-5 months.

Actually, there's only one Western leader i know of, who openly talks of peace and stopping the war: President Trump. I hope sincerely he gets back into office. If there is one chance of averting the inevitable, it will depend on his effort.

The Logan Paul interview with Trump: https://fountain.fm/episode/HFVmNLHeTm37aSiS5vhX

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100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

Western Europe continues to aid Ukraine because the politicians supporting Ukraine are getting rich from aid to Ukraine. Zelensky is getting free money for a war he cannot win. Aid to Ukraine can’t continue forever. One side will blink eventually

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

Ukraine's only hope for ending the conflict with Russia is diplomacy and neutrality[1][2]. Professor John Mearsheimer argues that the US, NATO, and the EU have treated Ukraine as a pawn in their geopolitical maneuvering, with little regard for the well-being of its people[1][2].

Mearsheimer emphasizes that NATO's primary interest in Ukraine is to provide a platform for launching missiles at Moscow[2]. He believes the international community, including Washington, Brussels, and Kiev, has consistently exploited Ukraine for its own interests[1][2].

The professor asserts that a new European security architecture must be designed to replace NATO's expansionist policies, which have fueled tensions between Russia and the West[2]. He encourages individuals to hold their leaders accountable and demand better from them[2].

Despite the grim outlook, Mearsheimer remains optimistic that diplomacy and neutrality are the only viable solutions for Ukraine[2]. He argues that the US and NATO could have offered alternative security arrangements, but instead chose to push for NATO enlargement, which has escalated the conflict[2].

Sources [1] Ukraine's Only Hope: Diplomacy + Neutrality https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/ukraines-only-hope-diplomacy-neutrality [2] Ukraine's Only Hope: Diplomacy + Neutrality - John's Substack https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/ukraines-only-hope-diplomacy-neutrality/comments [3] Bound to Lose - by John J. Mearsheimer https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/bound-to-lose [4] Why John Mearsheimer Blames the U.S. for the Crisis in Ukraine https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30559136 [5] John Mearsheimer – America's Sunk Cost in Ukraine https://glennloury.substack.com/p/john-mearsheimer-americas-sunk-cost?action=share

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @erict875 OP 17 Jun

I notice that the mainstream and independent media narratives are starkly different, just like during the pandemic, resulting in a significant divide in society.

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji 17 Jun

Paul Craig Roberts is good. I followed his blog years ago and he’s still putting out important perspective.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @riberet19 17 Jun

War is convenient for them, peace is for the poor.

thanks for sharing.

42 sats \ 14 replies \ @DiedOnTitan 17 Jun

The only "peace" Trump will bring is giving Putin a big piece of Europe. Then russia will use Ukraine military assets and soldiers to attack Europe, and this so called "peace" you speak of will spark WWIII.

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @erict875 OP 17 Jun

I have these claims but don't believe they are plausible. Right now, it's Nato that's launching attacks on Russian soil, not the other way around. Also, remember that both parties had reached a deal two months after the war started and Nato (us/uk) undermined it.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @erict875 OP 17 Jun

Edit:

I've heard about these claims...

10 sats \ 10 replies \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

When has Russia attacked Western Europe?

Your analysis of Russia is flawed

42 sats \ 9 replies \ @DiedOnTitan 17 Jun

When has Russia attacked Western Europe?

First of all, I said "Europe". Test your geography and see which ones qualify from the list below:

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @erict875 OP 17 Jun

That's correct, Russia has done horrible things in Eastern Europe, (in Africa too) but this does not apply to the current context. I honestly see how we can justify the current events with these historical facts, but maybe you can elaborate on that a bit more?

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

Most of the events were Soviet Union which dissolved in 1991 but the Berlin Wall fell in 1989.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @erict875 OP 17 Jun

Right. Important correction.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

First of all I said Europe

“Europe”

I never said Europe

I said Western Europe

I didn’t change the goal post.

If you are going to insult me at least have the courtesy to represent my views factually

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

When has Russia invaded Western Europe?

You quoted me

I never said Europe

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

Russia didn’t invade North Korea or China in 1950.

The countries on your juvenile list are mostly outside Europe.

None of these events led to world war

And the west never intervened until 2022.

None of these countries are strategically important to NATO.

What changed?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DiedOnTitan 17 Jun

You are changing the goal posts with every comment. First you asked when they invaded Europe. Then Western Europe. Then wars that led to World War. Facts don't seem to matter to you, but here are more of them countering yet more of your comments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_the_Korean_War

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 17 Jun

Soviet Union was helping North Korea. Their enemy was South Korea. China also assisted North Korea. 1950 to 1953.

USA fought communist North Korea and China to save the stalemate for South Korea.

Your list of Russian aggression is idiotic for citing North Korea and China. Russia was helping North Korea!

I said Western Europe. You said Europe but you meant to say Eastern Europe.

I said Western Europe. You widened your goal post to all of Europe because you refuse to say Eastern Europe

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DiedOnTitan 17 Jun

Russia fought with Korea allied with N. Korea. This is true. You label the list idiotic for adding "north" to Korea. Are you conceding that the list citing dozens of other invasions and wars is correct otherwise? I am well aware that these include other continents besides Europe.

With China we have several conflicts: • 17th Century Conflicts: Resulted in the Treaty of Nerchinsk, establishing borders. • 1929 Conflict: Over control of the Chinese Eastern Railway, resolved through an agreement. • 1969 Border Conflict: A significant military confrontation, resolved with a ceasefire and later diplomatic efforts.

What they are doing in Ukraine is simply genocidal terrorism. It's disgusting and horrendous and your defense of them is indefensible.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 17 Jun

Retard