68 sats \ 19 replies \ @guts 6 Jun \ parent \ on: What's So Bad About Trump? libertarian
Hard to believe when the American president with most bombings in the world is Obama, not Trump.
Everyone here is making huge assumptions about what I find respectable. Just because I don't like orange man doesn’t mean I like anyone else more. Don’t get caught in that mental trap.
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The question is what makes Trump worse. I think the disagreement is mostly on where you place those wrongs vs. where others place them. Clearly people do not align there.
I remember being with people calling Obama weak, a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ. It was absurd. I remember conservatives saying he'd put people in camps. He's never leave office. He was destroying the military. Losing the war on terror.
In truth he was Bush 2.0 with better marketing. He won his position promising change but really what changed most was the words and sales pitch. He continued the worst policies of W.
I learned a lot about politics and people during this period. How people just mimic what the news source tells them. And how everyone cries wolf.
This is a large part of why I do not buy what is being said about Trump today. On top of the misquoting, out of context, and out right lying about him its just in alignment with my experience as someone who's paid attention since I was a pre-teen.
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I remember being with people calling Obama weak, a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ. It was absurd. I remember conservatives saying he'd put people in camps. He's never leave office. He was destroying the military. Losing the war on terror. In truth he was Bush 2.0 with better marketing.
a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ.
this reaction from conservatives is because he was black-not based on something Obama actually said or did. As you mentioned, he's Bush 2.0 - the actual policies that were pushed by the Democrats weren't that indistinguishable from the Romney campaign.
the resistance was because someone conservatives viewed as 'lesser' was in charge, not policy.
in contrast:
He's never leave office
Trump refused to concede the election & had his supporters try to stop the count of votes in the capital.
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Trump did leave office before January 20, 2021
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yeah, but not because he thought that he needed to follow the law but because he didn't have support to stay.
the thing that Obama was accused of planning to do, Trump actually tried.
If people were 'crying wolf' when it was suggested that Obama might not want to leave office peacefully, what should the response be when Trump asked his supporters to stop the count of electoral votes in the Capitol Building?
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Trump actually left DC once his term ended. Barry still owns a house in DC.
No other ex president since Woodrow Wilson has stayed in DC except Barry.
When is Obama going to come out of the closet?
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Trump actually left DC once his term ended.
Not without kicking and screaming, and not before getting his supporters killed trying to reinstate him. pretty sure that's a presidential first.
No other ex president since Woodrow Wilson has stayed in DC except Barry.
The fact that Obama owns a home in DC is not relevant unless you think black people owning homes in wealthy areas is a problem. Why do you believe that black people owning homes in DC is an issue?
When is Obama going to come out of the closet?
a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ
and we're back to the bullshit. instead of attacking actual policy, the core opposition is to who Obama is vs what they did
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what does this article about a non-american stabbing another non American cop in Germany have to do with American politics?
did you just post this because you don't like Muslims?
What is the actual argument you're trying to make here?
I'm not going to do the work for you- explain yourself
Barry owns a house in DC because he is the puppet master for Biden.
Most ex presidents want to leave politics but not Barry.
I don’t have a problem with blacks owning houses. Much better than section 8 public housing which is problematic but you and I digress
I never said Barry was a closet Muslim but he did celebrate Ramadan at the White House. A presidential first and hopefully the last Ramadan celebration at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
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Barry owns a house in DC because he is the puppet master for Biden
Obama is a former president and former head of the Democratic Party, Biden is literally his former VP and current president - do you think that a singular piece of property in his name is going to magically make him more able to control Biden than that initial relationship?
I don’t have a problem with blacks owning houses. Much better than section 8 public housing which is problematic but you and I digress
Your anti-blackness is showing. You aren't actually really speaking to what Obama did either, just making another reference to him being black again and tying blackness to public housing.
If you didn't have an issue with Obama because he is black this wouldn't be relevant to bring up.
I never said Barry was a closet Muslim but he did celebrate Ramadan at the White House.
Why would a president voted in on a platform of 'bringing people together' want to celebrate a holiday shared by a major voting bloc of his constituents?
A presidential first and hopefully the last Ramadan celebration at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
You do realize that none of this is policy just how you feel about his perceived core identity, right?
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