Not sure I heard a lot of people saying this at that time. I was def one of few. Lot of people thought he was just a dumb puppet.

Also thanks for the comment David, lot of what he talks about in the interview are very basic practical approaches to building a community with a strong foundation it reminds me very much of Church leadership. Something that shocked me when I came back to the church in 21. Regardless how you may feel about it they do teach you to be mindful of your past and seek advice from elders but it all starts with prayer. Sacrificing oneself for the service of others or the future is common knowledge and something that you either fall in line with or leave. The people that leave usually come back because its the only thing that can fill that void they may have in life. Obviously not for everyone but it does work to transform people and communities. Its good to see someone has taken this approach to a country.