17 sats \ 21 replies \ @Satosora 23 May \ on: Why physicists now question the fate of the Universe science
I think there is so much we still dont know about the universe.
As a species, we are learning new ways of making ourselves extinct.
Its a learning process.
Or was it supposed to be the other way?
The first thing that got us close to extinction was not knowing how to harvest food. Everything is progress from that point onwards, despite everything.
Has for the universe, it's worse than that: it has been long demonstrated that its mathematically impossible to ever have a quote of knowledge. Our knowledge is condemned to be infinitesimal, yet so precious.
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What really bothers me is we are able to do vertical farming, and so many things economically, yet we dont.
The world could live on good food, healthy food.
Yet we eat plastic shit.
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@Undisciplined I want to hear your opinion on this!
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I don't think we're particularly close to understanding the fundamental principles of cosmology, so none of these models are going to be very accurate at the most extreme scales.
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Which is still pretty amazing right. The fact that we built all of these tools to analyze and elucidate theories, I mean, as an organized species. Impossible as an individual conquest.
I like your comment above though, it stings that the hard reality is that with the alleged intellectual prowess and the organizational processes of human efforts, we still fall flat on our faces, in attempts to solve the simplest problems. This reminds me of the fact the scientific navel-gazing is somehow imbued with the very problems it sets out to solve.
Perhaps the problem humanity and the scientific community has is, it does not err on the side of caution and often finds itself self-correcting after years of collective 'uncommon sense'.
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I think that's right, but also that science reporting strips away all of the cautions and caveats that scientists themselves would probably give.
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That's something I hadn't really considered when I was thinking just there. Most likely very important point that's under looked. I feel the kind of 'follow the science' political slogans to be somewhat dogmatic, and obviously this this is part of the lack of scientific rigor in the reporting, or emphasis in the wrong places.
As with anything, anything that's economically viable will be done. Absolutely no one will not produce food economically out of evilness. There's no shortness of good and healthy food, and any procedure used to preserve food will still apply to vertical farming. Don't worry about any of that. Do worry about anything that perverses incentives, and that's why we are here. Many of the things that could be done are prevented by perverted incentives due to governmental intervention.
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Very true.
The government is corrupt, it does need to change.
The people need to take action.
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To put it on perspective: my country, Argentina, produces food for 10 (TEN) times our current population. Not 10%, not twice, but 10. Yet there are cases in the north of kids that have died of malnutrition. Capitalism? The north averages 90% of employment in state positions. Taxes? 75 to 80% of what's produced. Excess of population? The north barely reaches a million in total. We are 45.000.000 million. We produce food for 450.000.000 million. What's the problem? Government, or vertical farming?
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There we go. Now, start looking around you, pay attention, and you will find the dirty claws of the state perverting everything. Can you think of something?
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