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1208 sats \ 7 replies \ @rahim1971 7 May 2024 \ on: Please help me understand uneconomical forwards lightning

CLN does not always take the most economical route (default lightning-pay), doesn't it?

See: https://docs.corelightning.org/reference/lightning-pay#randomization

Route randomization means the payment algorithm does not always use the
lowest-fee or shortest route. This prevents some highly-connected node
from learning all of the user payments by reducing their fees below the
network average.
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 7 May 2024

Weird idea. How can a routing node learn user's payments when it cannot know where the payment originated and its final destination? Glad I am using LND.

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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @random_ 7 May 2024 freebie

CLN also factors in risk based on the amount of liquidity locked up vs. lock time.

Wonder what the capacities and lock times are along both routes OP mentioned. And min/max htlcs.

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @C_Otto OP 7 May 2024
  • c-otto.de to ACINQ: 100M capacity, time lock delta 99
  • c-otto.de to lnd v0.18.0-beta.rc1: 2.5M capacity, time lock delta 99
  • lnd v0.18.0-beta.rc1 to ACINQ: 4M capacity, time lock delta 100
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @random_ 7 May 2024

curiouser and curiouser

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 7 May 2024

different graph from the payee's POV?
unsupported required features?

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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @C_Otto OP 7 May 2024

Interesting. Is paying 6x the price worth it, though?

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 7 May 2024

Lightning txs are usually so cheap that I think it's worth it

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