Phoenix Refugees - Where are you now? \ stacker news ~lightning

1695 sats \ 67 comments \ @030a29f333 1 May lightning

With the Phoenix news this past week, I was curious where people are migrating to for self-custodial LN? Tried Zeus out and didn't have a great experience thus far :/

Zeus24.0%

Mutiny25.3%

Breeze25.3%

Other25.3%

75 votes \ poll ended

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126 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 May

Nice try, fed.

51 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 1 May

Snuck in, didn't you?

64 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 May

I've gotten a couple in today.

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @PlebeiusG 1 May

Came here to say this... zap for you sir

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

Can't say I didn't try tho!

15 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 May

Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 1 May

Zeus, Blixt, and Blink.

I mainly use Phoenix for checking currency convert. 🙊

70 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May

https://i.postimg.cc/mkmGw7BJ/wallet-stairs.jpg

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @cyberpunk02 1 May

Walletano! yay!

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

What is next to mutiny on third row?

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @OtillaOnlyBTC 2 May freebie

To the right of Mutiny in that pic is Electrum. I don't know what's to the left.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 2 May

That means:

you didn't read Darthcoin guides
you have much more to learn about bitcoin wallets

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

Which wallet is next to mutiny on your pyramid?

Can you link your guide? Substack?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

Valet

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

I like mutiny

66 sats \ 2 replies \ @SwapMarket 1 May

Blixt. Neutrino LND node in your phone, can open channels to whoever you like. If you also run Umbrel etc node in your home (like I do) you can open zero-confirnation private channel to it for ultimate security. Your family and friends can also be your node's clients with such a setup.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

What's your experience with them?

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 1 May

Very positive, I use it for a while. It's an open source app for Apple and Android. There is no central server, the seed phrase is standard. It is very configurable, maybe not as user friendly as Phoenix, but you get full control.

26 sats \ 2 replies \ @nerd2ninja 1 May

Blixt just got completely forgotten from this list lol

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

I forgot about Blixt! Was going through the accounts I frequently see on twitter/nostr haha. How's the experience?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 1 May

Uh its great for someone who understands how the lightning network works and enjoys full control of all the settings (including whether to use convenience options or not).

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @riberet19 1 May

Zeus wallet!

500 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

Mutiny and Zeus but I recommend mutiny

110 sats \ 3 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 2 May

I really like Mutiny's team and the direction they're going. Pace of development is awesome.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

I recently started with Fedi

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 2 May

Personally very excited about all things ecash

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

Same here

Lot of potential to explore

15 sats \ 1 reply \ @raymond50romero 1 May

When I first Zeus I didn’t really like it either but it slowly grew on me over time. Now that’s the only wallet I use aside from my cold storage.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

Zeus is still cool to me, just got a bad experience when I was force closed on my first tx 😭

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @jp305 2 May

I'm just tired of finding the "best" options... I think I'll just connect Zeus to my own node but I have no idea what I'm doing... (yet)

I want to onboard friends & potential customers.

5 sats \ 1 reply \ @godlikeXi 1 May

Nunya. Nunya business.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 1 May

I think we have a winner

8 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 1 May

I still have phoenix as I am in Canada but I have Breeze and Zeus as well. Haven't tried Mutiny yet. Sorry Tony. Soon.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @dynamic_equilibrium 2 May

“United States sub-citizens, which wallet should we ban next?”

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullama 2 May

Why not use the apk directly from github though?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatoshiP2P 2 May

blixt wallet

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 1 May

coinbase?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @itsrealfake 1 May

channel closed :)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

2 closes actually

93 sats \ 27 replies \ @orthwyrm 1 May

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147 sats \ 25 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May

Yeah, I don't know why US people are so chicken shit scared. They just have to use it PROPERLY without any app store shit.

64 sats \ 13 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

I was worried Phoenix would start blocking US users within the app, similar to WoS. Can they do that or am I just paranoid?

280 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 1 May freebie

Save your phoenix seed.
Uninstall from app store (because is linked to your account)
Install app from their github, without any fucking app store https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases
Restore from seed. All funds will be there.
Run it with Tor activated. Done, be happy and ignore all the shit.

If you still use an apple shit, drop it now and take an android, de-googled.

I really do not understand why people cannot do these simple steps?

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 1 May

This

60 sats \ 10 replies \ @Signal312 1 May

On WoS, it looks like you can SEND out, in the US, but you can't receive. You get a notice "region not supported".

I wonder, if after May 5th, or whenever it is that Phoenix is officially shutting down, they will also do this.

I was thinking of trying to use a VPN. I've received some advice to NOT do that, since lightning is kind of finicky anyway, and anything that adds complexity will cause problems.

Do you folks have thoughts on VPN with Phoenix? Honestly, I'd rather just stick with Phoenix, if I can.

60 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

Yes that's what I meant originally. If I can't receive the wallet is useless, but I dont know if Phoenix can even prevent people from receiving like WoS. I'm not concerned about loss of funds.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

Run a test

Send or post invoice here

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @03365d6a53 1 May

never go online without a vpn

lightning works fine, as does everything else

mullvad are good

44 sats \ 6 replies \ @orthwyrm 1 May

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61 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 1 May

Recommended VPNs?

61 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May

by @Natalia #259866

50 sats \ 3 replies \ @Signal312 1 May

Ok, for the complete newbie doesn't use VPNs...what's the best vpn to use?

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

Mullvad is great (can pay via LN too)

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May

proton or mulvad or lnvpn are OK

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

Proton is easy to use and secure and private

Is it the best? Probably not but good enough and reasonable price

25 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 1 May

You can look at it another way. It's Phoenix who is chicken shit scared. Maybe people want to support wallets who don't surrender so quickly.

104 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 2 May

I can see moving away eventually - even soon. But all the new options take time and energy to understand. I need to have a working wallet over the next couple months.

I can definitely see that I need to have multiple options in the near future though...

64 sats \ 4 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May

This. I dont really blame Phoenix (especially since they're not US-based) but man they just pulled the trigger so quick.

15 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 1 May

Right. It was so fast. They moved before Wasabi, whose decision was more understandable.

54 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

They must have a small legal team and a small legal budget

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 2 May

They're ASINQ, one of the biggest, well funded players out there.

54 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May

Thanks for responding

They definitely panicked because their lawyers told them to.

Maybe it’s better to have no lawyers lol

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @itsMoro 1 May freebie

people freaking out over app store pullout, and subsequently begging for customer service ( customer service, in btc? ??) help due to ' losing their money' while their on chain transaction was in the mempool was fking sad and so ngmi. a voluntary app store pullout is like .000001 / 100 for regulatory attacks and apparently no one has any sense what holding ur own keys means after all this time.