I used to held a bit of monero, and I tried most of its features, tried every wallet, different node UI's (pinode, simple cli, gui, feather, monerujo, mymonero, cake, etc) but I got tired of the fact that you cannot move funds unless they have 10 confirmstions, that is 30 minutes. Also I had not great experiences with some wallets (tx sent but never appeared in mempool). Many times I tried some wallets out in the street and since the txs are heavy and traffic is more intensive, I had many problems with syncing the wallet, sometimes it was like 30 minutes to sync just after 1 or 2 days of been disconected. My impression is that using monero is a very private experience, but also you need a lot of patience. That's why I prefer LN for privacy. The trade offs are too big.
For now monero is better on all points, IF you use your own node. LN privacy sucks when u receive payment because invoices leak too much data. BOLT12 could improve this ...
When u send payment privacy is okay on LN
And it all depends how u manage your channels, and the utxo they come from.
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I used to held a bit of monero, and I tried most of its features, tried every wallet, different node UI's (pinode, simple cli, gui, feather, monerujo, mymonero, cake, etc) but I got tired of the fact that you cannot move funds unless they have 10 confirmstions, that is 30 minutes. Also I had not great experiences with some wallets (tx sent but never appeared in mempool). Many times I tried some wallets out in the street and since the txs are heavy and traffic is more intensive, I had many problems with syncing the wallet, sometimes it was like 30 minutes to sync just after 1 or 2 days of been disconected. My impression is that using monero is a very private experience, but also you need a lot of patience. That's why I prefer LN for privacy. The trade offs are too big.
A very well thought out and very reasonable response. Agree. 🙂
For now monero is better on all points, IF you use your own node. LN privacy sucks when u receive payment because invoices leak too much data. BOLT12 could improve this ... When u send payment privacy is okay on LN
And it all depends how u manage your channels, and the utxo they come from.
So Monero is private by default while lightning needs a bit of tinkering to get going
That’s the crux I’m gettin.
Love lightning for it’s awesome ease of use btw!
Thanks for the clarification!
Why you need to advertise Monero in a LN website? Whats your goal?
monero is just a shitcoin that is presented as a "privacy coin".
It’s the only coin that does privacy by default and is ASIC resistant so anyone can mine it.
Why the hate for it?
Anyone who understands Bitcoin truly would not make such a statement 🤔
you are biased by monero shills, you fool yourself. I will give you 1BTC if you can find and trace me after I will give you 100 sats on LN.
No one shilled me Monero
In fact it’s the least shilled coin and the most used. It’s replaced BTC on darknet markets
As for your bet, if you even have 1 BTC @sethforprivacy can take that from you easily.
Why the hate? It makes no sense. Monero people hate shitcoins but love Bitcoin but you just hate without reason 🤔
I don't use that. I don't give a shit about that.
Is not hate, is just a shitcoin that sell false assumptions of "privacy", so I ignore it.
LOL so you use somebody else because you are not capable, but you think you have idea about what are you talking about. Typical biased monero shill.
https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/bitcoin-and-privacy