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How do we define the concept of "progress," and is it always desirable?

551 sats \ 6 comments \ @nym 20 Apr FiresidePhilosophy

Consider the concept of 'progress' in human society and individual lives. When we talk about progress, what exactly do we mean? Is it solely about technological advancement, economic growth, or societal development? Or does progress include broader aspects such as personal fulfillment, moral advancement, and environmental sustainability? Is progress always desirable, or are there instances where the pursuit of progress leads to unintended consequences or ethical dilemmas?

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77 sats \ 1 reply \ @frostdragon 23 Apr

I like this question. I think the fact that humans have doubled life expectancy and people don't die from sickness near as often as they used to could be considered progress. I also heard that once individuals make about $70k/yr, their happiness level stop going up w/ more income beyond that (this was over 5 years ago, so that's probably gone up by now). So I think there's something to be said about achieving basic needs, health, and being able to pay for a modestly comfortable life.

I think beyond that, it gets far more philosophical. What is the goal we're progressing towards? That's going to vary from person to person, and I think it's a mistake for "society" or government to have a heavy hand in solving that problem.

6 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 23 Apr

That's a good answer. "Progress" is pretty much good by definition, but whether we're accurately assessing progress is an entirely separate matter.

I think "progress" will be whatever happens when the state stops obstructing people's individual pursuits of happiness.

16 sats \ 3 replies \ @Satosora 21 Apr

Moral values have been declining. The other day l saw a older person fall, no one wanted to help pick them up. Society is becoming more and more animalistic.

6 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 21 Apr

Unconscionable

I blame this on DEI

6 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 21 Apr

Dei?

6 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 21 Apr

Diversity Equity Inclusion agenda

Incompetent people of color attaining positions of power

People who are hurt by DEI become more cynical and callous