Irwin Schiff still believed in the State and in the Constitution? If that is so, he was not out of the system, he was fully under the jurisdiction of the State.

What I'm explaining is jut to resign your total participation in the jurisdition of the state because you understand you are not a citizen, but it's administrator, and you can resign at any time because you are alive and free. You can break the contract, because you never signed into it anyway, and you have been dishonestly lied and manipulated into believing in it. That is coercion or scam, and that is against natural law.