I serve my blog from a small (read: weedy) VPS. I only intended to use it for a simple webserver, so it didn't need to be a beast: Less than a gigabyte of memory. Less than 10 Gb of disk storage, and barely enough CPU to decide what I should eat for breakfast. It's weaker than a raspberry pi, but costs me only a few dollars each month to maintain.
After reading BIP157/158 and learning about how Neutrino works, I thought: "Holy guacamole, what an amazing age we live in. I've got to try this."
I've run Lightning nodes before, but they were always backed by a full archival Bitcoin Core instance, with hundreds of gigabytes of storage required for the full chain and index. This time, I wanted to have a go at running an ultra-light lnd instance on my puny little VPS with as tiny a storage footprint as possible.
Turns out, it's very possible, and took only 2 hours to set up from the time I sat down to read docs/guides, to the time I opened the node's first channel. And most of that was just the reading. With a neutrino backend, LND only took maybe 2 minutes to sync and finish setup. If i were so inclined, I could probably script this process deploy a node and open a channel in 5 minutes tops.
This is sublime. Running a lightning node has never been easier or cheaper.
Nice! Exactly how I describe it in this guide: #439263
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32 sats \ 0 replies \ @leo 28 Mar
Very cool to see! I hope it serves you well and please report any problems you see to the LND team!
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @r3drun3 28 Mar
For those interested in a step-by-step guide on how to run a lightning node with neutrino, you can follow this guide.
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The guide presents an implementation using docker... I believe in setting it up first using a normal GNU/Linux OS with mainnet and then once I understand it move to make it more practical and efficient with containers...But thanks so much, this is helpful.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @moel 28 Mar
Did you know that you could run LND+Neutrino on your phone, simply by using the Breez lightning wallet 😂 ?
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Blixt and Zeus are using the same LND + Neutrino.
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Sounds cool, definitely checking this.
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I think that vps+neutrino+lnd is a good way to run a watch tower for my other nodes running elsewhere. However, the (C/G)UI for watch towers seems to be pretty bad for understanding whether it works properly. Moreover, how can I test that the watchtower really do its job?
Any ideas or pointers?
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I still don't know how the filters work. But it is something I always want to sit down and learn.
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Thanks for the pointers. I run a full verification node and I have been researching setting up an LN channel. My motivation and interest is focused on supporting the network and learning the infrastructure, as opposed to earning a profit. Based on your feedback, a full node is overkill, but I like the simplicity you are indicating. Cheers.
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If you want to support the network and run a full node, then activate neutrino on your node and make it discoverable. In this way you help other to sync the neutrino from your node.
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Done. neutrino=1 added to bitcoin.conf and restarted.
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You need these: discover=1 blockfilterindex=1 peerblockfilters=1
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blockfilterindex=1 peerblockfilters=1
These obviously make sense in the context of Neutrino. Added and restarted. Cheers!
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discover=1 is default, right? My node is already discoverable. Added it explicitly and restarted.
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yes is visible in the bitcoin network, but that discover line is only for neutrino clients to find your node.
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Great! From hours to just a few minutes, who doesn't want these things to be be a time saver! For non technical people like me, this must become easier and time saving so we can also get on the boat. Thanks for telling us the way. I wanna give it a try now.
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