i would say we should have thought about that earlier, how systems get used against us from the ones who want to control us -  and we should have built a different system. Now we have a surveillance nightmare.

I come from a time when we thought that we are kinda anonymous on the usenet/internet. I see much similar thinking from bitcoiners now. We know how it ended with the internet - so we should fix shit while it is still fixable.

I see. Well, in that case I do agree with the opinion that most share that privacy need not be solved on chain. At least not now. And if it does become a need, it can be implemented.

However, if L2 solutions to this become the norm, then problem solved.

Again, hard to make such decisions based on events that may not even happen when there is an easier path, development wise, that can achieve the same goals. And if it doesn't, attempting to implement on chain privacy is still something that can be done.

Think about it for a second: all this that we hear about bitcoin was said, to smaller or greater degree, about the internet when it came around. In the end, the internet has been used to impose the most strictest of government and social controls that were simply unheard of until now. Would you say it was a mistake to create it?

mateusdeap

nobody said stop using a thing. I just want to  emphasize that we need to get the privacy issue fixed immediately if we dont want to create a tool to control us from something which was supposed to liberate us.

Darthcoin_Cash

bitcoin

Can Bitcoin enslave us all?

I'd say whatever we do can be misused. There isn't much sense in stopping to use something that is good because it may be used as a weapon.

While it is likely laws like these can get passed, it's also likely to exist countries that do the opposite. Not to mention that, in terms of resistance to KYC laws, bitcoin is leagues better than normal bank accounts.