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210 sats \ 4 replies \ @kepford 26 Mar \ on: California’s Latest Hustle: Utility Bills Based on Ratepayers' Income econ
I thought this story sounded old.
And it isn't going into affect yet. Being changed because... politicians can't be bothered to do the one thing they claim makes them useful. Legislating. Being devoted to educating themselves on the important decisions. Us plebs don't have the time to consider these things. We need representatives devoted to this task debating and deciding what to do. So the story goes that you are programmed with in the government schools.
Yet another gem.
In case you don't know California really has a HIGHLY state controlled utility system that has had price fixing as well as government oversight for many years. In response largely to the Enron scandal. I believe it is this price fixing along with restrictions on power production requiring the importing of power from other states that is responsible for the ridiculous rates and crumbling infra that led to many wild fires. Its really a mess but since these are private companies (in name at least) then they are the easy scapegoats.
These companies suck, don't get me wrong. But they would suck less if they were allowed to build power plants, have competition, and live under a free market. Many would fold and be bought out by better managers of power services. I could go on but you get the point. Nothing new here. Same nonsense. New bills.
I also vaguely recalled reading about this before. I know there's also some stupid controversy there about whether homeowners with solar panels should be allowed to sell their power back onto the grid. Apparently, that's unfair to people without rooftop solar, or something.
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That may be but I haven't heard that angle. I think what you are talking about is NEM (Net Energy Metering). A new agreement is now in place called NEM 3.0. The previous agreement which was designed to encourage solar installations was retired. Under the 2.0 the power company was required to buy back excess power sent back to the grid at a reduced rate. Now they no longer have to do this. This results in solar owners receiving much less ROI for their production. Basically as I understand it, the grids were being over powered with energy produced by panels during daylight hours and then production drops off a cliff when the sun goes down. This also is the time when peak usage happens. Honestly, it sounds like a tough spot to be in as an engineer.
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Isn't that what batteries are for?
I think this is the issue I was referring to, but whoever I heard arguing against it was taking a bizarre egalitarian stance. It was something about how the solar production wasn't reducing electricity costs for anyone other than the solar producers. Talk about politics of envy.
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No kidding. The economics of home batteries are tough unless you have an EV. Many people are making dumb economic decisions with this stuff though because they don't use spreadsheets. Not to mention the risk of fire.
I haven't heard the argument you mentioned. I have only heard it was those greedy utilities. Even though they are overseen by state boards. For all the talk of renewable goals they disincentivized new solar installations. The payoff period for a system is now much longer. One of many reasons why I do not take these people seriously.
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