I'm not going to lie. I kind of buy into some of the hype that soy is gonna give me both cancer and double Ds. I'm no soy boy but I have to be honest. I have tried it. I know. Please don't tell anyone. It's alright if you fry it enough. Anyways, I want to know. What's bad about soy as a meat alternative.
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 16 Mar
My wife's soy-allergic, so it's not a regular food for us, but I do enjoy it occasionally (my Thai place does a great fried tofu). Most of the anti-soy "science" seems dubious or built on people consuming way more than I ever would.
That said, I like meat too much to ever really dive into alternatives.
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75 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 16 Mar
I've looked into the anti-soy claims and the evidence seems pretty weak. I recall that there's even some evidence that the phyto-estrogen in soy essentially crowds out estrogen in our bodies and leads to less effective estrogen.
Tofu isn't my favorite form to consume beans in, but we eat it somewhat regularly.
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23 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 17 Mar
I love most beans in general. My wife is a big fan of soy so I eat it sometimes. Not my favorite.
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55 sats \ 2 replies \ @kytt 16 Mar
I ate soybeans a long time ago as a cheap source of protein before I learned all the shit I've learned now.
Biggest notable effect: it TORCHED my libido. That told me everything I needed to know at the time.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DesertDave OP 17 Mar
That can't be good. Did your libido recover when you went back on the meats?
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78 sats \ 0 replies \ @kytt 17 Mar
Yes, as soon as I stopped, it came back.
Side note: when I started the carnivore diet, my libido went through the roof - like I was a teenager again.
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54 sats \ 1 reply \ @arrivederci 17 Mar
I cook and eat tempeh occasionally. I think it's a pretty good soybean product. The digestion/fermentation of the soybeans by the introduced fungus is a good way to improve its nutritional profile and probably (although I have no source for this) decrease any negative effects from the original soybeans.
And when in Japan I will eat tofu, where it has traditional roots and is nicely incorporated into their cuisine. But I will also eat basashi (raw horsemeat sushi) when in Japan too. Oh, and natto is good stuff.
I'm really dubious about the mass manufactured soy milk in western markets however, with a lot of them bulking out the 'milk' with dodgy oils (e.g. canola).
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 17 Mar
I had no idea those other versions existed. It seems like mass production generally leads to worse products.
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54 sats \ 4 replies \ @premitive1 16 Mar
something to do with estrogen production
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DesertDave OP 16 Mar
And that causes gayness or something, right?
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44 sats \ 2 replies \ @premitive1 16 Mar
No, but maybe lactation
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DesertDave OP 17 Mar
Like from the boob area?
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44 sats \ 0 replies \ @premitive1 17 Mar
yes
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44 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 18 Mar
Yep, try to avoid soy.
Check out the video "Plants are trying to kill you", by Anthony Chaffee - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1cqNDDG4aA).
In addition to all of what's mentioned in the video, as well as being a much poorer, less bioavailable source of protein compared to meat, here's a long quote with references from The Carnivore Code (CHAPTER 5: OF UNICORNS AND FAIRY TALES):
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44 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 17 Mar
Too much soy is bad for men such as estrogen
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44 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter 17 Mar
No, I don't believe that's an alternative. In fact that's plant based. In modern era they can't sell you the product if they don't sell you the idea.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DesertDave OP 17 Mar
I agree with that part about selling ideas. Do you believe there are any quality alternatives for people who don't feel like eating animals?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 17 Mar
Definitely, Some whole foods, such as beans, lentils, chickpeas, and mushrooms, contain protein or have a meaty texture and can work well as meat substitutes.
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 16 Mar
Or what is good about it for that matter?
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