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240 sats \ 6 replies \ @arrivederci 16 Mar freebie \ on: The Twilight of the Antifederalists by Murray Rothbard history
It's my impression, from outside the US, that the population is still very heavily propagandised to revere the Constitution, when, and I agree with the Antifederalists, its contentious passage meant the betrayal and end of a great experiment in democracy. And it has been downhill ever since for democracy in the USA as it has been increasingly captured by an oligarchy.
USA was not founded as a democracy. Where in the Constitution is the word “democracy”? Originally only landowners could vote. This requirement would solve a lot of problems associated with the excesses of democracy. No one envisioned 18 year old voting in 1787.
The Federalist Papers were written by Jay, Madison and Hamilton to persuade the voters of New York.
As far as constitutional propaganda, there are many misconceptions from elementary school or pop culture and media.
Let’s take one example, the death penalty. Opponents of the death penalty will say that amendment 8 forbids the death penalty because it is cruel and excessive. That interpretation is wrong because cruel and unusual have nothing to do with proportionality. The text says “cruel and unusual punishments”. The word is plural because it refers to a list of punishments in English common law that were deemed cruel and unusual.
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Where in the Constitution
I believe he was talking about the period before the constitution, which was much more decentralized.
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Article of confederation which was 13 independent states perhaps too independent
I think states imposed trade restrictions or tariffs on other states to prevent accidentally interstate commerce
Don’t conflate decentralized with democracy. 1776 was not about democracy. Jefferson studied Athens and Ancient Greece. His vision of a democratic society consisting of the yeoman farmer was not shared by John Adams or Hamilton
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It depends on how he's using "democracy". Institutions are considered more "democratic" when more people have input. It doesn't have to mean everyone votes on everything.
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Your impression, from outside the US, is very accurate.
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Happy to find that the book from which this excerpt is taken is available as an audiobook on the Mises website :
I've added it to my History subscriptions.
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