139 sats \ 10 replies \ @k00b 15 Jul 2022 \ parent \ on: Daily discussion thread
@kr and I discussed this today. On HN, new users are given green user names. We could do something similar, or as you suggest a filter, or even introduce ranking in recent which would mean /recent becomes something more like 'recentish but 0 votes'.
As a shorter term fix, we are going to probably just add an exponential cost for posting within a 10 minute window.
My original reason was to filter out posts from new users when periodically checking recents throughout the day, but then go back and look over newbie posts once a day. The decaying exponential backoff/cost method (PI feedback) might solve the same problem of spam from newbies
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Ah, I see. How would you define a newbie?
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Based on your trust score. Something like a minimal threshold or gate to set them apart
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Cool. Should it apply to users with a trust of 0, or just anyone in the lowest 10th percentile, or 20th?
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That depends on what percentile of what. I dont know what the distribution looks like. I assume there are three or four groupings of scores and they aren't following a single gaussian distribution, probably at least three clumps of scores.
If I were to try to make it algorithmic, I'd probably try to collate the ranks into 100 bins, smoothe the bins through a moving average or high order polynomial fit, then search starting at a score of zero and look for a local minimum between new/inactive users and active users, and set the threshold there.
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Fancy. Okay, mostly trying to gauge how new/untrusted you meant to filter out
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TBH I was originally thinking you'd give the user a spinner or pulldown to set it to whatever you like (either on the recents page or in settings) but then I thought that would be too complicated but maybe setting a fixed threshold is less optimal. It's possible I just dont get your trust system and am thinking it's useful where its not
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Is that just for Posts, or are you intending on doing that for multiple comments in a 10 minute window as well?
Also, ... if doing that even for just Posts, maybe add a setting like "Max fee per action", so that I can set 100 sats as the max that my comment or post would ever permit, (unless it's a tip where I manually enter the amount).
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It’d be just for posts.
Good idea on max fee setting
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It could also be for self-reply nested comments, where it's just a single user replying to themselves 5 times in a row.
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