Have you ever worked directly with investors? Perhaps you got a bad experience.

A lot of investors are very helpful and provide great mentorship. Interests are generally aligned and allow early platforms (which challenge incumbents) to survive 

I'll have both investors **and** collaborators. It's not black and white, and imo shouldn't be for me/sn.

k00b

I sure hope you are right.  My experience is that outside investors bring with them a whole new level of stress.  If what you want are collaborators, how about bringing in a technical partner?  Someone who will actually work side by side with you, every day.  Give them some ownership instead of a VC.

pleb349

Hey so SN raised a seed round

I disagree. Friends/partners/whatever. It's humans helping humans. Even if they're only helping for returns, they're helping me do something I can't do on my own and I want them to get returns. Something that I hope benefits us all.

I'm done building things alone.